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Same-sex marriage fails in NY State

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New York's State Senate today voted down gay marriage in a big way. 38 to 24. That's no small defeat.

Am I right that gay marriage has passed every vote in a State legislature...except for New York?

New York is a pretty liberal state, so I am a little surprised that this measure failed..with such a margin.

More surprising, is that NYS does not have any domestic partnership law that gay marriage qualifies under. That means that not only can gays not marry, but they also have no way to even qualify for marriage-like rights and privelages (i.e. domestic partnership).

What does this say about the fight for same-sex marriage in the USA? Maybe too much..too soon?

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I was going to start a thread on this too. It saddens me. I'm a New Yorker too, and I wanted legal gay marriage pretty badly. (Make Niagara the honeymoon capital again!)

New York isn't as liberal as it seems. Upstate is much, much further right than NYC. Believe me.
 
tyr_13 said:
New York isn't as liberal as it seems. Upstate is much, much further right than NYC. Believe me.
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Don't forget our very Roman Catholic Irish and Hispanics..and our not soo liberal Orthodox Jews.
 
I wonder ... are those same senators that voted down gay marriage also willing to pass legislation to prohibit divorce?

I mean, whatever reasons they may have had (i.e., "Sanctity of Marriage" or "Traditional Family Values"), might be just as readily applicable to keeping families together.

And before anyone starts blasting away at me, please understand that this is not my idea. It seems that a fellow named John Marcotte, a writer who runs the site BadMouth.net, is collecting signatures to get the "California Protection of Marriage Act" on the ballot. If passed divorce would be illegal in California.

What are the chances?
 
Fnord said:
I wonder ... are those same senators that voted down gay marriage also willing to pass legislation to prohibit divorce?

I mean, whatever reasons they may have had (i.e., "Sanctity of Marriage" or "Traditional Family Values"), might be just as readily applicable to keeping families together.

And before anyone starts blasting away at me, please understand that this is not my idea. It seems that a fellow named John Marcotte, a writer who runs the site BadMouth.net, is collecting signatures to get the "California Protection of Marriage Act" on the ballot. If passed divorce would be illegal in California.

What are the chances?
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I wasn't going to bash on you, because I had "LOL WUT?" moment when I heard about that legislators "Defense of Marriage Act".

I don't think it has a chance in hell of passing, but it is something that should make people really question if their opposition to gay marriage is really about the sanctity of the institution.
 
parky76 said:
New Jersey? The armpit of America?

Ohh..I DON'T THINK SO!!!!

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Yeah, I completely agree.

Dirty Jersey will forever live in infamy as the home of the homophiliac douche Jager-bombers.

I'd be surprised if gay marriage were passed in Jersey...those guys are even more afraid to admit their homosexual tendencies than the NY State Senate.
 
What is really pathetic was that only ONE senator spoke out against same-sex marriage, and it was a pretty bad reason not to legalize it. The other fourteen people who spoke out in favor used every great talking point. What was the outcome? Epic Fail. I guess the other 37 slimeballs, err senators who voted no but didn't speak didn't want to be on footage for future use?
 
I am ALL for giving same-sex couple all the same rights and privaleges as straight couples.

however, i do believe that the legal status known as "marriage" should stay between a man and a woman.

no one has the "right" to a title. but they do have the right to be treated equally.

and that is all i am gonna say on this issue. :)
 
Honestly though, they should do the Domestic Partnership Registry first, then marriage. Don't forget though, the Supreme Court of New York did rule a couple of days ago that same-sex marriages issued outside their state will be recognized as valid.
 
parky76 said:
yuppers.

baby steps folks. some things in the USA require baby steps.

how long did it take us to be comfortable with a black President?????
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That's how DC did it, and look at the first round of votes for it, nearly unanimous...
 
NobleXenon54 said:
That's how DC did it, and look at the first round of votes for it, nearly unanimous...
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well, don't forget that gay marriage did easily sail through the NY State Assembly.

Its the Senate..that fails. The damn Senate!! I wonder if Chancellor Palpetine was involved?

 
Who could have known that the New York State Senate had a bunch of asshats on it?

Besides people who have been paid any attention at all or even being with ear shot of the news around them this year that is.
 
It's pretty interesting that this happened in the middle of a budget crisis. The guys in Albany can't figure out how to keep the State afloat, but by God, gays can't marry!

I suppose it's petulant to point out that marriage is one thing that keeps our economy going - and allowing homosexual couples to marry could increase that revenue stream (license/filing fees, goods/services paid for, etc).
 
That's OK folks. Since the masses have voted the wrong way, I'm sure it's only a matter of time until some judge declares the ban on gay marriage in New York "unconstitutional".
 
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