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Sam Parnia new interview

Lukas1986

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Here is a new interview of Sam Parnia:

http://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-...h-experience-look-like-1.9090657?mode=Article

There are again no mentions of a hit but he claims he has heard several typical stories of NDE where someone was dead and even returned back to life after one hour he was declared death and that he described everything around himself. That story starts around 6:50.

The story he claims is proof of a afterlife has holes:

- He does not describe anything concrete.

- The staff if it even happened like the doctor described would be talking about it and with the patient to know what happened making the story even more unreliable.

- There are other people who were flat lined and returned back to life with no report of a NDE or anything paranormal: https://emj.bmj.com/content/18/1/74.full

- At 7:52 Parnia says that the doctor could not remember how much adrenaline he has given the patient and adrenaline is one of the factors that can cause a Lazarus Phenomena if the medication has a delayed action:

Another theory is the delayed action of medication used as a part of resuscitation efforts, such as adrenaline.

Source: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317645.php

- The patient was pumped full of drugs Parnia mentions at least adrenaline and phenylephrine.

If someone wants to add something more he is welcomed.
 
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Someone said the brain remains active for a while. Remembering events during rescutitation, for example.
 
Dr. Sam Parnia has given a new interview. The methodology is not very good:

https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...s-consciousness-continue-after-our-brain-dies

The methodology he will use in AWARE II leaves me doubtful that it can be open to cheating:

His goal is to study 1,500 people in cardiac arrest. When a “code” is called, participating researchers will be alerted and dispatched to resuscitation rooms carrying backpacks consisting of portable brain oxygen monitoring devices. The plan is to measure, second by second, the oxygen levels inside the brain. There will also be a portable EEG to measure whether the brain is functioning. As well, patients will be fitted with wireless headphones, through which random words and sounds (which need to remain secret until the study is over) will be transmitted via a tablet. Images will also be beamed upwards as people undergo CPR. Parnia doesn’t expect anyone to open their eyes. No one ever does in cardiac arrest.

Source: https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...s-consciousness-continue-after-our-brain-dies

In the story are also sceptical commentaries. The whole article is very well written.
 
Also Dr. Parnia is wrong there are people who opened their eyes during CPR:

A man undergoing cardiopulmonary resuscitation, or CPR, exhibited signs of conscious awareness for 90 minutes before the medical team stopped the life-sustaining procedure, according to a new case report.

The case was presented Monday at Euroanaesthesia 2018, the annual European Anaesthesiology Congress in Copenhagen, Denmark.

Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/04/health/cpr-awareness-resuscitation-study/index.html

However that is also mentioned in the article with Parnia himself.
 
When a patient is coding in the ER, having someone show up with a backpack with a tablet and pairing bluetooth earphones seems like it might get in the way of the life-saving efforts. Or at the very least, their time and effort might be better spent helping to save the patient?
 
Someone said the brain remains active for a while. Remembering events during rescutitation, for example.

NDE's are not really visions of the afterlife. They're just the brain's version of the boot-up screen.

ETA: I think studying NDE's is a completely useless exercise. Somebody goes into cardiac arrest and is resuscitated, and has memories of a dream (or a visit to heaven, take your pick) that happened somewhere in the course of this, but when did it actually happen? There is really no way of knowing. Assuming it is something generated by the person's brain (by far the most likely explanation, IMO), it could have happened immediately after the arrest, when the brain still had some oxygen, after the heart was restarted, or during the arrest. There really is no way to tell. Some religious people like to cherry-pick the narratives that seem to match their beliefs about some kind of afterlife, but I see no reason to think that there is anything going on but a dream, hallucination or whatever term you prefer generated by the brain of the "dead" person, at some time during the process of arrest and recovery.
 
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New info on AWARE II:

- The survivor rate is low.
- 10 percent of people who have cardiac arrest have seizures and that means some kind of brain activity when in cardiac arrest. So again it shows that people who have these seizures are maybe having NDEs therefore they cannot be called After Death Experiences.

The link to this: https://med.nyu.edu/medicine/education/grand-rounds/18-19

If you have a problem to get there use it this way. Go to:

https://med.nyu.edu/medicine/

Then go down the page to Medicine Grand Rounds and then go to View 2018-2019 Medicine Grand Rounds Videos.

The video of aware II starts from 49.
 
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