Russia's new "blogger law"

[Mark6]

Vladimir Putin signed a new law—referred to as the "blogger's law"—that will require online writers with more than 3,000 daily readers to register with the Roskomnadzor, Russia's media oversight agency.

the new Russian measure specifies that any site with more than 3,000 visitors daily will be considered a media outlet akin to a newspaper and be responsible for the accuracy of the information published.

Besides registering, bloggers can no longer remain anonymous online, and organizations that provide platforms for their work such as search engines, social networks and other forums must maintain computer records on Russian soil of everything posted over the previous six months.

Aleksandr Zharov, who runs Roskomnadzor, the government agency that supervises the Internet, told the state-run RIA Novosti news agency last month that the law was necessary because people need to be held responsible for what they say on the web. “What he would never say face to face, he often allows himself online,” Mr. Zharov was quoted as saying.

I am looking forward to how local Putin-lovers will spin this. Probably "necessary in view of fascist coup in Ukraine".

 

[Border Reiver]

And, just so that we cannot claim that this a deception by the Western "pressitutes"

From TASS.

all the sources I've seen say the bill has only passed it's second reading and is not yet law, but given Russia's track record recently with repressive legislation....

 

[Childlike Empress]

I am looking forward to how local Putin-lovers will spin this. Probably "necessary in view of fascist coup in Ukraine".

So the thread intent is senseless baiting and not a serious discussion. Understood. In other case I had asked if you compared this to the laws in your own country. Unless you're Yankistani, it's rather likely that you'll find similar laws. That's why you'll find the worlds hate speech sites almost exclusively hosted in the US. In Germany, for example, the Impressumspflicht which more or less exists since 1530 was extended to the web in 1997. The evil Russkies are 17(!) years late on that. We barely got around a general bulk data retention law so far, but only with massive activist efforts and we are an exception to the international rule.

Wrong answer, I know.

Baaad Putin, bad bad Putin.

 

[Childlike Empress]

In other words, the pre$$titudes work by ommission here, counting that their audience is too dull or intellectually lazy to add context and never objected to something like a UK kid sacked for what they said on twitter, because they have nothing to hide. But hate Putin. And now even more.

 

[IDB87]

never objected to something like a UK kid sacked for what they said on twitter, because they have nothing to hide.

Is this a particular case you're referring to, or is it more general, like an employer firing an employee who said something dumb on the internet?

 

[tyr_13]

So the thread intent is senseless baiting and not a serious discussion. Understood. In other case I had asked if you compared this to the laws in your own country. Unless you're Yankistani, it's rather likely that you'll find similar laws. That's why you'll find the worlds hate speech sites almost exclusively hosted in the US. In Germany, for example, the Impressumspflicht which more or less exists since 1530 was extended to the web in 1997. The evil Russkies are 17(!) years late on that. We barely got around a general bulk data retention law so far, but only with massive activist efforts and we are an exception to the international rule.

Wrong answer, I know.

Baaad Putin, bad bad Putin.

So you're ok with the Russian media control measures like this, because other countries have other types of restrictions too? Or are you saying that other countries (lesser) control are wrong too, therefore Russia isn't in the wrong?

More simply, I'm asking if you're for governmental control of the media or if you're engaging in tu quoque.

 

[A'isha]

So you're ok with the Russian media control measures like this, because other countries have other types of restrictions too? Or are you saying that other countries (lesser) control are wrong too, therefore Russia isn't in the wrong?

More simply, I'm asking if you're for governmental control of the media or if you're engaging in tu quoque.

I like how CE points out that the US doesn't do this right in the middle of tu quoquing about Russia's new restrictive law.

It makes CE's sig that much funnier, too.

 

[marplots]

Own your words. Be accountable. Much like this forum.

 

[Belgian thought]

. ...That's why you'll find the worlds hate speech sites almost exclusively hosted in the US.../quote]

Do you have evidence for this claim?

 

[LSSBB]

That's why you'll find the worlds hate speech sites almost exclusively hosted in the US.

Not true! For example, globalresearch.ca is hosted in Canada!

 

[angrysoba]

Not true! For example, globalresearch.ca is hosted in Canada!

And Press TV is in Iran, although it would be ironic if it were based in the US.

 

[trustbutverify]

President Macho continues his war on internet Imperialism!

Russian President Vladimir Putin expressed his views of the internet a few weeks ago on a live national TV broadcast, saying, “You know that it all began initially, when the Internet first appeared, as a special C.I.A. project.” “Special services are still at the center of things,” Putin continued, and thanked American fugitive exile in Russia, whistleblower Edward Snowden, for showing the world the efficiency of NSA data collection.

 

[Morrigan]

I like how CE points out that the US doesn't do this right in the middle of tu quoquing about Russia's new restrictive law.

It makes CE's sig that much funnier, too.

B-b-but it's all hate speech! And why do you hate Putin?

 

[TheRealnz]

Americas censorship of their media over NSA leaks and snowden is just as disgraceful;. Outright intimidation of the Guardian over publishing information. America are a disgrace as well handling of occupy wall st leaders. atleast russia are letting their record keeping policies be known to the public unlike the shifty NSA.

And bloggers can be sued for misinformation and 'slander', bloggers are still regarded as publishers somewhat and held to some standards of the press. The tightening in Russia is not that far off in the west IMO

 

[tyr_13]

Americas censorship of their media over NSA leaks and snowden is just as disgraceful;. Outright intimidation of the Guardian over publishing information. America are a disgrace as well handling of occupy wall st leaders. atleast russia are letting their record keeping policies be known to the public unlike the shifty NSA.

And bloggers can be sued for misinformation and 'slander', bloggers are still regarded as publishers somewhat and held to some standards of the press. The tightening in Russia is not that far off in the west IMO

Tu quoque, and false equivalency.

 

[trustbutverify]

Americas censorship of their media over NSA leaks and snowden is just as disgraceful;. Outright intimidation of the Guardian over publishing information. America are a disgrace as well handling of occupy wall st leaders. atleast russia are letting their record keeping policies be known to the public unlike the shifty NSA.

And bloggers can be sued for misinformation and 'slander', bloggers are still regarded as publishers somewhat and held to some standards of the press. The tightening in Russia is not that far off in the west IMO

Complete nonsense. If thegreatsatan even considered legislation forcing bloggers to register with the ebil gubermint, you and the rest of team conspiritard would be apoplectic... and sure as heck wouldn't be "but...but...butting".

 

[marplots]

Complete nonsense. If thegreatsatan even considered legislation forcing bloggers to register with the ebil gubermint, you and the rest of team conspiritard would be apoplectic... and sure as heck wouldn't be "but...but...butting".

So we register with Wordpress or Blogspot instead?

 

[Checkmite]

1. What exactly did American media "censor" about the Snowden/NSA thing, and 2. Occupy Wall Street had no leaders, on purpose.

 

[Checkmite]

So we register with Wordpress or Blogspot instead?

Neither actually requires you to enter any personal data; although you have the option of course. Go ahead and try to create a blog as an experiment; use a throwaway Yahoo email address.

 

[trustbutverify]

So we register with Wordpress or Blogspot instead?

I assume you're kidding.