Rush Limbaugh caught in drug ring

thrombus29 said:
If it is bull than the Enquirer has a pretty big lawsuit on its hands.
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Not if it is true. My point is that if it were you or I the cops might want to put the fear of god in you but there is not very much they can do. How long can you get for having a bad habit? No time.
 
During times when you have an ounce of weed in your possession and a box of Ziplocks in your kitchen they will get you with intent to distribute, for them not go after a guy who was going through (Allegedly) 4,000 of his "Little Blues" would cause a bit of an uproar (I hope).

With the draconian drug laws they have now, If the cops put their mind to busting him for something, they will.

Whether they put their minds to it or not is the question.
 
thrombus29 said:
During times when you have an ounce of weed in your possession and a box of Ziplocks in your kitchen they will get you with intent to distribute, for them not go after a guy who was going through (Allegedly) 4,000 of his "Little Blues" would cause a bit of an uproar (I hope).

With the draconian drug laws they have now, If the cops put their mind to busting him for something, they will.

Whether they put their minds to it or not is the question.
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Right, right I agree BUT "having gone thru" (past pluperfect, I believe) ain't nothing. See what you said (you did, damnit, DON'T TRY TO DENY IT!!) was "when you have" not "if you had but smoked". All he has to say is "prove it". The coppers won't waste a second on this.
 
You realize, of course, that Rush will come out of this smelling like a rose?

The Dittoheads will forgive him...you forgive your own, this is about pain and it doesn't involve sex (the only thing, actually, the dittoheads probably wouldn't forgive Rush is gay sex).

They'll forgive him because he was using a clean drug, brought to him in Palm Beach and not bought on the stoop from minorities...

He will be slightly chastized for a short time (at least about drugs) affecting a stance of greater compassion and understanding, but he will ultimately be just as hard on drug abusers, demanding that they be duely punished (maybe after a one strike try at treatment). Like GW Bush, this little episode will make him a born again, in the sense that he will be more convinced of the weaknesses of others because he will have faced up to his problem and kicked it...and, having kicked it himself, he will be even less tolerant of the weaknesses in others.

You can hear him now on the phone..."come on, if I can do it, any one can do it. If you are on drugs, you are weak....blah, blah blah...."


In short, in the words of the new governor of California, and to the joy of his fands, he -- like the terminator -- will "be Baaack..."

God help us all...
 
Ed said:
Right, right I agree BUT "having gone thru" (past pluperfect, I believe) ain't nothing. See what you said (you did, damnit, DON'T TRY TO DENY IT!!) was "when you have" not "if you had but smoked". All he has to say is "prove it". The coppers won't waste a second on this.
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Having gone would be an example of the (past) perfect participle.

In English the pluperfect or past perfect indicates action prior to some other point in the past, such as Rush Limbaugh had ingested highly addictive and illegal opiates as many as 100 times a day before he was finally caught.
 
In English the pluperfect or past perfect indicates action prior to some other point in the past, such as Rush Limbaugh had ingested highly addictive and illegal opiates as many as 100 times a day before he was finally caught.
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To further diagram this sentence: (I am studying Spanish grammar), the past perfect conjugation had ingested expresses action in relation to the subsequent was caught. The preterit was would be the verb here, with the (irregular in English) past participle caught acting as an adjective, modifying the noun Rush Limbaugh.

In Spanish, the past perfect or pluperfect is expressed in two very different voices: the past perfect indicative (just covered) and the past perfect subjunctive.

In general, the subjunctive expresses uncertainty, possibility, a feeling, or a wish. In English, the past perfect subjunctive is structured the same as the past perfect indicative: Bill O'Reilly was hoping that Rush Limbaugh hadn´t gone through his medicine chest again.
 
Throughout this particluar episode I am reminded why my leanings tend to be a bit more towards the right than to the left.

The left is going into a near frenzy at this story; "hypocrite" seems to be the word of the day. Yet the left are the folks who try and tell me they are the most compassionate, the most caring, the most feeling....not like those cold, unfeeling conservatives.

Had the leftist columnists I read said something to the effect that they understand what has happened, that they hope he can get help, that they're rooting for him to kick th ehabit...then, perhaps, I could have some respect for them.

But even the few that I've read that actually put something like that in their column always have a "BUT...." after it.

They're showing their own hypocrisy, which pushes my irony meter into the red.

Am I a Rush apologist? Hardly. I listen to the man two or three times a month and find some his bit amusing, at other times I am aghast at his ignorance. This holds true for most people I listen to, and read.

And, no doubt, applies to folks that listen to me.
 
I'm just gonna chime in with my 2¢, why not.

Personally, it doesn't matter to me one jot whether or not Rush is addicted to anything. It doesn't affect in one way, positive or negative, my opinion of him or his arguments. But there is one aspect of this I think is interesting.

About 13 years ago, I became addicted to codeine after a wrist operation. Now, I was only on the stuff for a couple of weeks, and I never turned to the black market to support my addiction, but I did experience first-hand the ease at which one can become addicted and the difficulty of fighting that addiction. In a way, I was lucky; since my term of addiction was so short I only had to go through a few days of withdrawl (although they were the longest and most miserable few days of my life). I can certainly understand the intense desire of someone wanting to maintain an addiction, and I can't honestly say I know what I would have done had the term of addiction been longer and more intense. I only got through it with the help of my friends and those who understood the nature of my addiction and how to best help me.

I'm hopeful (if a little doubtful) that Rush will come out of this with the same appreciation I have, and that these are the same issues facing those with addictions to cocaine and other, harder drugs. Hopefully he, and through him his listeners, will realize that addiction is a medical problem, not a legal one, and that trying to throw these people in prison is counterproductive at best.

Unless, of course, Rush himself thinks he should go to jail for his mistakes...
 
ShowMe said:
Throughout this particluar episode I am reminded why my leanings tend to be a bit more towards the right than to the left.
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To me Rimbaugh´s exposure fullfills all the requirements of a successful joke, involving a cognitive juxtaposition of mental sets and followed by affective feelings of amusement.
 
ShowMe said:

Had the leftist columnists I read said something to the effect that they understand what has happened, that they hope he can get help, that they're rooting for him to kick th ehabit...then, perhaps, I could have some respect for them.

But even the few that I've read that actually put something like that in their column always have a "BUT...." after it.

They're showing their own hypocrisy, which pushes my irony meter into the red.
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As a liberal, your post applies to me. I was a bit conflicted at first in my feelings about this issue. At first, I remained silent cause I wanted to be compassionate about his addiction. But then I remembered all his monlogues about drug usage and how he was always for tougher laws and so forth. I then decided he should be hoisted by his own petard on this one.

Did your irony meter go in the red when this "tough on drugs" talker admitted he was addicted to drugs himself? I sure hope so otherwise your meter is clearly not working.

Lurker
 
Lurker said:
Did your irony meter go in the red when this "tough on drugs" talker admitted he was addicted to drugs himself? Lurker
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Oh...absolutely! This should be a very interesting case & I'm wondering how he'll spin it.

Then again he hasn't been charged with anything as yet. Perhaps the police don't have enough evidence; while everyone & their brother knows it's true having enough evidence to present it in a court of law is an entirely different animal.

But the folks on the left who tell me they have compassion for everyone, who suddenly turn with hyena like glee when it's someone whose views they disagree with...they fill me with sadness more than anything.

You state you are a liberal, so tell me: In your view would it have done more for your cause for the leftists to come out and say something like, "We all know Rush is human. Perhaps now he can see that rehab does work, that locking away people who are addicted is not the answer. We all pray for his well being and hope that he will be turned around and preach his newfound wisdom to his 20 million listeners. Come on Rush...let's see if you're man enough to admit your wrong."

Or do you think it furthers the leftist agenda to (metaphorically) tap dance in the streets screaming insults?

It's hard to take someone seriously when they say they're compassionate towards everyone, when "everyone" only inclused the people they like.
 
This link doesn't have links to the quotes, so I don't know how accurate they are, but they sure sound like him.
"There's nothing good about drug use," he was saying. "We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."
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"What this says to me," he told his listeners that day, "is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."
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(The heartless shrug when Jerry Garcia died.)

"'When you strip it all away," Rush had said of the Grateful Dead guitarist, "Jerry Garcia destroyed his life on drugs. And yet he's being honored, like some godlike figure. Our priorities are out of whack, folks."
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But then he also said:
"What is missing in the drug fight," he said, "is legalization. If we want to go after drugs with the same fervor and intensity with which we go after cigarettes, let's legalize drugs. Legalize the manufacture of drugs. License the Cali cartel. Make them taxpayers and then sue them. Sue them left and right and then get control of the price and generate tax revenue from it. Raise the price sky high and fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs."
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Wishy washy? Or did his opinions change when he became a drug user?
 
Tricky said:

Wishy washy? Or did his opinions change when he became a drug user?
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I wonder if that second quote was made out of his own guilt.

Then again, the last person I knew who was hooked badly on oxycontin was self-deluded into thinking he really needed it for pain. It becomes psychologically addictive to some and they feel like they can't stand the pain without it.
 
corplinx said:


I wonder if that second quote was made out of his own guilt.

Then again, the last person I knew who was hooked badly on oxycontin was self-deluded into thinking he really needed it for pain. It becomes psychologically addictive to some and they feel like they can't stand the pain without it.
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I wonder that too, and as I have said before, I pity Rush. Addiction is terrible. I don't want him to go to prison. I want him to recant some of those terrible things he said.

If that actually works, then I hope the next thing that happens to him is that he gets caught taking his girlfriend to an abortion clinic.
 
ShowMe said:


But the folks on the left who tell me they have compassion for everyone, who suddenly turn with hyena like glee when it's someone whose views they disagree with...they fill me with sadness more than anything.

You state you are a liberal, so tell me: In your view would it have done more for your cause for the leftists to come out and say something like, "We all know Rush is human. Perhaps now he can see that rehab does work, that locking away people who are addicted is not the answer. We all pray for his well being and hope that he will be turned around and preach his newfound wisdom to his 20 million listeners. Come on Rush...let's see if you're man enough to admit your wrong."

Or do you think it furthers the leftist agenda to (metaphorically) tap dance in the streets screaming insults?

It's hard to take someone seriously when they say they're compassionate towards everyone, when "everyone" only inclused the people they like.
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Well, I make a special case for Rush. He has gone on the record numerous times belittling drug users, calling for tougher penalties, and belittling liberals for bothering to try and understand addiction. Such rank hypocrisy is hard to difficult to just allow to pass. I am not dancing that this happened to Rush. I am merely appaled at his hypocrisy.

In reality I DO want him to get better and return to his profession. Hopefully he will come back with some changed attitudes (I doubt it) and will become a voice of reason about drugs. Hopefully his audience will learn from him (I doubt it).

Prediction: Rush will come out of it strong and his audience will ignore it ever happened and/or worship him as a hero. That is modus operendi for some people. Ignore the sins of your own side while talking tough. His audience will learn that Rush will probably not want to talk about it much after a week or two after he is back. Rush will not put on callers that discuss it or cut them off after about 2-3 weeks of it. Slowly, his audience will learn not to mention it and all will be happy again in dittoland.

Lurker
 
Lurker: Prediction: Rush will come out of it strong and his audience will ignore it ever happened and/or worship him as a hero. That is modus operendi for some people. Ignore the sins of your own side while talking tough.
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Seems like there's plenty of precendent for such a prediction. This kind of behavior has been seen before among fans of Bill Clinton, for example. And people still worship John F. Kennedy despite his abuse of prescription drugs. This sort of fan behavior is not limited to any one ideology, or even to politics.
 
Keep this in mind:

Bill Clinton to the best of my knowledge did not actively preach against the 'crimes' he committed. I don't recall him talking tough about adultery or saying the penalties should be increased.

Rush Limbaugh daily took a tough on crime, specifically tough on drug users. He wanted tougher penalties. Further, what Rush did was against the law.

Comparing the die-hard fan of Clinton versus the die-hard fan of Rush has some similarities but there are also differences.

By the way, I think Clinton did a good job as president but I was none too happy about his private life. Glad he is gone.

Lurker
 
Lurker: Keep this in mind: Bill Clinton to the best of my knowledge did not actively preach against the 'crimes' he committed. I don't recall him talking tough about adultery or saying the penalties should be increased.
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Keep this in mind: As an example of what I am talking about for fans of Clinton, you have already forgotten about his impeachment, which is what my comment was about, not his sexual trangressions. Clinton lied under oath, for which congressional charges were brought against him. And I hope you aren't suggesting that his oath of office wasn't a direct promise to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States"?

The bigger problem here is that it becomes harder to teach children not to lie when the President of the United States lied under oath. I think that is a bigger moral transgression than Rush's abuse of prescription drugs. As always, Your Mileage May Vary™

Further, what Rush did was against the law.
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So is what Clinton did.
 
Pssst. Here's a tip on how to ignore right-wing hypocracy: Just chant "Clinton" over and over again.
 
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