Rudy Giuliani Campaign Deathwatch

Since Giuliani was basically the Neo-Con candidate, does his support go to McCain now?

Or were his rank-and-file supporters not Neo-Cons but regular law-and-order Republicans?

IOW, does Romney or McCain benefit?
 
I think most of Giuliani's support will go to McCain. I've always seen them as pretty similar.
 
Oh. There's data in the Florida exit polls and it indicates a complete wash. Essentially equal numbers of Giuliani voters listed McCain and Romney as their second choice.

Of all voters, 19% gave Romney as their 2nd pick, of which 25% voted for Giuliani, while 20% gave McCain as their 2nd pick, of which 24% voted for Giuliani.
 
Fox news just reported Giuliani is dropping out and endorsing McCain. He is to make his announcement tomorrow in California.
 
Wow, the way he self-imploded you'd almost think he was a democrat. :D

McCain's been working overtime to bring in the Christian's of the James Dobson ilk, I don't think he'd bring in Rudy as a vp. Too liberal.
 
rtalman said:
That would make for an interesting race in NY, a must hold for the Dems electorally. That's pretty much the only upside to McCain tapping Rudy for VP. As I have posted before, Giuliani is irrelevant west of the Hudson River.
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Might help with New Jersey, which is a state that McCain could use.
 
I think McCain knows his age and realizes the score. I expect him to pick someone who can take over if necessary. There won't be a Dan Quayle/John Edward paper tiger VP pick for McCain.
 
So Mr. 9/11 has had to 9/11 his own 9/11. Does that mean he will 9/11? How many 9/11s will go to the other 9/11s especially the crazy old 9/11, 9/11?
 
corplinx said:
I think McCain knows his age and realizes the score. I expect him to pick someone who can take over if necessary. There won't be a Dan Quayle/John Edward paper tiger VP pick for McCain.
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Is that meant to be an argument against or for Guliani? I don't know him that well.
 
It makes me think of the contigency of history.

If he had had a different campaign manager, giving him different advice, might he not have had a lock by now?

Eh, that's life.
 
Brainster said:
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I love the comments from the Ron Paul supporters after that post:

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Thank you Mr. Malcolm and LA Times. This is a game of last man standing. Once there were 11, now there are 5. Dr Ron Paul is in 4th place in the delegate count. He came in 2nd in Nevada, and 2nd or 1st in Louisiana.
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With any luck, all those sorry clowns will drop out and Dr. Ron Paul will win by default.

Let's see the media try to lock him out then!

With any luck indeed!
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These Ron Paul supporters are missing the whole logic of the Paul campaign: ordinarily he'd have no chance at all, but with several cookie-cutter neocons splitting the Republican vote it's POSSIBLE for Paul to win with fairly low numbers (say 25%). With the neocons dropping out of the race Paul needs to get higher percentages to compete with the remaining candidates, and Giulliani's and Thompson's votes are NOT going to Paul. These two dropping out makes it harder on Paul's campaign, not easier.
 
Dr Adequate said:
It makes me think of the contigency of history.

If he had had a different campaign manager, giving him different advice, might he not have had a lock by now?
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Many savvy political observers tell me that Giuliani did campaign initially in New Hampshire and Iowa and wasn't moving the needle. Although in today's politics you have to run in almost all primaries, prior to 1972, campaigns would often sit out a few states where they felt they might be weak rather than run and finish poorly. If Romney had won in New Hampshire, and Huckabee in South Carolina (instead of both finishing second), McCain would have been out and Giuliani would probably have done quite well in Florida.
 
corplinx said:
I think McCain knows his age and realizes the score. I expect him to pick someone who can take over if necessary. There won't be a Dan Quayle/John Edward paper tiger VP pick for McCain.
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I'm betting on Crist. There was some serious backroom stuff going on to get him to jump ship on Romney so close to game time.
 
I really thought Giuliani would stay in until Super Tuesday for one last throw of the dice.
The problem McCain will have in his VP is to pick somebody who might appeal to the conservative wing of the party who might still have lingering doubts about him but could still be attractive to moderate voters,since because of his age McCain's running mate will receive a lot more scrutiny then usual.
 
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