Rosie O'Donnell Libels The FDNY

Um... on a skeptics' forum, such a conjecture should probably be preceded by an "IMHO" or some such.

Not saying you are wrong--just saying that it is counterfactual thinking and you cannot possibly know. No one can. There is, and can be, no evidence to base such a statement on, given that her politics don't come with a control group.

Your point is reasonable, but it remains a fact that the ideological slant of the major networks' daytime talk shows is relentlessly and unanimously liberal.
 
No, the analogy fails. I don't listen to Limbaugh, but he has built up a following by providing entertainment and vigorous conservative polemics. I'm not suggesting that he is infallible--far from it--but, unlike Limbaugh, Rosie is quite stupid, and that's not a political assessment.

SO more like a Bill O'Reilly? Sorry, couldn't resist.

TAM:)
 
The thing is, without those theories, the "Truth Movement" wouldn't even have false evidence ("molten steel," misquoted/mistaken eyewitness statements, misinterpreted FDR data, etc.) to point to in order to demonstrate that 9/11 was abetted, planned and/or executed by the government or the mythical "New World Order." They wouldn't even have a chance to get the support of most of the gullible Bush-haters that they do.

So, da troof movement is constantly lying. Da troof movement slanders. Da troof movement is anything but the truth. I'm baffled by how long these theories have had a fan base.
 
Now they are planning a demonstration outside ABC studios supporting Rosie.

http://www.wearechange.org/2007/03/demonstration-of-support-for-rosie_19.html

"NY911Truth and CHANGE will be outside ABC's the Views Studios this Wednesday to support Rosie O'Donnell courageous and brave actions standing up for 9-11 truth. Rosie O'Donnell has been Ignored by most of the 9-11 truth movement and Ignored by the mass media. We as citizens of New York say enough is enough and were going to show Rosie support for Standing up for the truth. We're going to be outside ABC studios with our '9-11 was an inside' banner and 'Thank You Rosie' Sign, anyone is welcome to come."
 
Now they are planning a demonstration outside ABC studios supporting Rosie.

http://www.wearechange.org/2007/03/demonstration-of-support-for-rosie_19.html

"NY911Truth and CHANGE will be outside ABC's the Views Studios this Wednesday to support Rosie O'Donnell courageous and brave actions standing up for 9-11 truth. Rosie O'Donnell has been Ignored by most of the 9-11 truth movement and Ignored by the mass media. We as citizens of New York say enough is enough and were going to show Rosie support for Standing up for the truth. We're going to be outside ABC studios with our '9-11 was an inside' banner and 'Thank You Rosie' Sign, anyone is welcome to come."
This is great news! Troofers don't realize that publicity is not their friend.
 
It gets worse folks...

She has started answering questions...in omnious 3 to 5 word answers nonetheless!!!

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/170307Rosie.htm

UGH.....but...

This may be a great oppurtunity for scientific method to show in the public eye? Is Rosie the type of woman that would listen to reason, facts, and real truth? Could we get some sort of coaching session for her? I don't watch tv so I wouldn't know...
 
Again with fire brought down the buildings. Again with pull it. I'm beginning to believe that Idiocracy is a documentary

For all the Truthers who think we're living in The Matrix, one would expect the word to seem more like The Siege, but instead it seems to most closely resemble Idiocracy

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Now they are planning a demonstration outside ABC studios supporting Rosie.

http://www.wearechange.org/2007/03/demonstration-of-support-for-rosie_19.html

"NY911Truth and CHANGE will be outside ABC's the Views Studios this Wednesday to support Rosie O'Donnell courageous and brave actions standing up for 9-11 truth. Rosie O'Donnell has been Ignored by most of the 9-11 truth movement and Ignored by the mass media. We as citizens of New York say enough is enough and were going to show Rosie support for Standing up for the truth. We're going to be outside ABC studios with our '9-11 was an inside' banner and 'Thank You Rosie' Sign, anyone is welcome to come."

"Rosie O'Donnell has been [sic] Ignored by the mass media."

Did they miss when she mouthed off to "the Donald," or offended the Asian community? If Rosie gets fired it will probably be for the negative publicity and attention grabbing she does (she is competing with some divas and one Uber-Diva who controls the show).

IMO if Barbara Walters was ever a journalist she would ask Rosie some pointed questions, she used to do it with Stossel. She used to be a pretty good interviewer, but went the way of Larry King, and started asking softball questions. Being very schmatzy rather than in-depth.
 
Hey call me crazy, but I like the idea of Rosie bringing the trooth movement out into the mainstream. Uncover the rocks they hide under and let the burning light of truth purge them. Now what would be really fun is for Rosie to get a complete and comprehensive debunking by Tom Sellek. Have her on screen while Sellek does a point by point voice over reading of Gravy’s LC debunking.
 
P.S. What's with that American philosophy that the most effective debate tactic is to talk over the top of your opponant as loudly as you can and repeat the same thing over and over?

Let me know if you ever find out. It's really embarrassing.

Though its far from perfect, at least NPR's content is civilized.:o
 
Sigh. I just looked through the latest batch and my question wasn't used.

And Rosie slammed The Secret as a huge marketing scam! Sometimes you win, sometimes you woo...
 
she only updates it on fridays I think. There is no link to her blog on this thread so i will add it here

http://www.rosie.com/blog/sections/ask-ro

I notice she links to Julia Sweeney's site, who spoke at TAM5 in January. If we can get those 6 degrees of separation working for us...

I really would like to see a Gravy vs. Rosie debate on The View

... that might happen.

Hey call me crazy, but I like the idea of Rosie bringing the trooth movement out into the mainstream. Uncover the rocks they hide under and let the burning light of truth purge them. Now what would be really fun is for Rosie to get a complete and comprehensive debunking by Tom Sellek. Have her on screen while Sellek does a point by point voice over reading of Gravy’s LC debunking.

Or we could get Robert de Niro... Gravy's big (little) brother, AND Gravy. :D JOKE!! I am unaware of 6 degrees linking Gravy and de Niro. But we could get the South Park guys, maybe? Or Penn Jillette??? OK, I've just had a beer, and am a bit happy at the moment. But something like that would be pretty good.
 
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Rosie expands to false flag operations. Gulf of Tonkin in her blog:

"The Gulf of Tonkin Incident began with an “imaginary” attack by three North Vietnamese torpedo boats on the Maddox, a U.S. destroyer, in the Gulf of Tonkin on 2 August 1964. Two days later, that vessel and another U.S. destroyer in the area both reported themselves under renewed attack, although North Vietnam subsequently insisted that it hadn’t attacked — and no attack is now believed to have occurred on the 4th of August.

Within hours, Johnson ordered retaliatory air strikes on the bases of the North Vietnamese boats and announced, in a television address to the American public the same evening, that U.S. naval forces had been attacked. In a message he sent to Congress the following day, the President affirmed that “the North Vietnamese regime had conducted further deliberate attacks against U.S. naval vessels operating in international waters."

Johnson requested approval of a resolution “expressing the unity and determination of the United States in supporting freedom and in protecting peace in southeast Asia”. He said that the resolution should express support “for all necessary action to protect our Armed Forces” — but repeated previous assurances that “the United States… seeks no wider war”. As the nation entered the final three months of political campaigning for the 1964 elections (in which Johnson was standing for election), the president contended that the resolution would help “hostile nations… understand” that the United States was unified in its determination “to continue to protect its national interests."


http://www.rosie.com/blog/2007/03/26/the-gulf-of-tonkin/
 
Anyone else think that Rosie's entry into 911 nuttery is just a false flag operation in order to get into Dr. Wood's trousers?
 
Now now Crungy there is no need to put that kind of image into my head. That is just wrong. Rosie has no need of Wood.
 
And Rosie slammed The Secret as a huge marketing scam! Sometimes you win, sometimes you woo...
I have mixed emotions about that. Slamming The Secret is a worthy thing to do, but if I had not seen that DVD I'd consider Rosie's slamming of it to be equivalent to an endorsement from a sane person. And her criticism is off the mark as well - it's not a marketing scam, it's a brilliantly marketed piece of crap.
 

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