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Rosemary Altea

Expression_man said:
Hmm, I've already commented on this. Yes, I do think it's silly not to step up which is why I keep bugging them. I've already stated that some of them are technophobes and that they need help with using a PC sometimes, no one's perfect. : )

The arguments they come out with are a bit more complex than what I stated, the context of them isn't very well suited to a discussion on the JREF forums. I just gave you what I indicated as being the most common response.

The only place it could lead anyone is to a greater understanding of things. Although, you'd probably perceive failure as being the inability to think in the same way as you do, which is also "interesting".
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I would be truely concerned for the future if everyone thought like me (well, even more so than I am now), so I'd not consider it failure. Indeed, a good many wonderful things have been stumbled into by discarding rational thought or even common sense.

Watching people deal with inconsistency is simply interesting. You believe these people to be somewhat reasonable, even if a bit peculiar about some things. You believe they possess their claimed ability. You believe there must be some way to test their ability sufficiently to pass the challenge.

If they do not choose to take the challenge, which belief will you re-evaluate and why? That they're reasonable? That they possess their ability? That the ability is testable?

Or perhaps you'll simply choose to live with an inconsistency in your belief set. I myself do so (likely more than one).
 
petre said:
Watching people deal with inconsistency is simply interesting. You believe these people to be somewhat reasonable, even if a bit peculiar about some things. You believe they possess their claimed ability. You believe there must be some way to test their ability sufficiently to pass the challenge.

If they do not choose to take the challenge, which belief will you re-evaluate and why? That they're reasonable? That they possess their ability? That the ability is testable?
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Well, I'm already questioning their wisdom regarding the attitude of not needing to reveal something incredible. Then again, they don't brag about anything either. They're still very reasonable, they just have a different set of values. They certainly aren't without their own personal problems either (nothing special there). I do understand that there needs to be some sort of trust established between the two camps, that's something lacking right now.

Or perhaps you'll simply choose to live with an inconsistency in your belief set. I myself do so (likely more than one).
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I'd rather not divide people, or myself for that matter. There's a lot of reflection to be done, yes.

In any case, it's at the point where there needs to be a demonstration. Scientific curiousity is at the highest its ever been. Who does it isn't important. There needs to be irrefutable data now that serious research is being carried out. Explanations can come later.
 
Moochie said:
I asked a genuine question in a civil manner. I have concerns that this individual may need help -- help that we, here, cannot give him.

I won't be responding to his posts any more.
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Sorry about that, I thought you were fooling around again.
(even with that thing in brackets)

Thing is, I have read nothing here that suggests to me we have anything to worry about regarding Em's mental health. He is thinking. He is rational. He is looking for answers. He's had some weird experiences which he cannot explain. He is trying to develop these to the stage where he can test them objectively for validity. In the mean time he is trying to persuade those with highly developed experiences to be tested. I guess he does need to be careful with those experiences because of possible ill effects, but he has already had these and has recognised the danger and taking steps to protect himself.
 
BillyJoe said:
Sorry about that, I thought you were fooling around again. (even with that thing in brackets)
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No probs.

Thing is, I have read nothing here that suggests to me we have anything to worry about regarding Em's mental health. He is thinking. He is rational. He is looking for answers. He's had some weird experiences which he cannot explain.
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It is these that worry me, and with good reason.

He is trying to develop these to the stage where he can test them objectively for validity. In the mean time he is trying to persuade those with highly developed experiences to be tested. I guess he does need to be careful with those experiences because of possible ill effects, but he has already had these and has recognised the danger and taking steps to protect himself.
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I am not at all convinced of that.

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I am not at all convinced of that.
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I'm not sure how to approach this as you've already stated that you wouldn't be replying to me anymore. Well, if you're still reading, rest assured that there's nothing anyone could say here that would cause me to bring harm to myself. If you think I'm so desperate that I'd find it appropriate to put myself in a position like last time that's your business. I'd rather eat **** than do something like that again. The diagnosis I got from the people in question was a "premature kundalini awakening". I don't believe in that stuff either but it's certainly refreshing to hear someone come up with an alternative to "you need help because I don't relate to what's going on".

I'd almost prefer that you make fun of me Moochie, getting worried isn't going to do anything for you.
 
I'm thinking he means the situation where you think intensely about a certain problem and just cannot get a breakthrough. Then you stop thinking about it and, hey presto, the answer comes in an instant. If that is the case, I can see a few problems with the "discarding rational thought" thing. But I don't know if he had this sort of scenario in mind.
 
Rosemary Altea on Bullsh!t

Rosemary Altea on Bullsh!t



Skeptical Inquirer said:
There was a nice expose of Rosemary Altea during a taped readings arranged by Showtime. Viewers got a clear picture of how she worked the small group of people present for readings prior to the taping in order to glean information for later use. They also learned how her publicist seeded the group with people whose biographies were already known to Altea in order to boost her on-camera success.
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http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2843/is_3_27/ai_100755210

Altea is a scumbag.
 
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