"Rosa Parks was a plant"

Just for your info. Novaland, MaGZ is probably being serious about the Commie plot. He has some pretty strange ideas. I'm surprised he didn't say Rosa Parks was a Jew.

Patience, he'll get around to it. She was probably involved in 911 too, and a member of the Illuminati.
 
I thought it was common knowledge that her actions were pre-planned. I also thought it was common knowledge that being pre-planned doesn't take away from the significance.

Are there people who say that, if what she did was pre-planned, that therefore the outcome of those actions is somehow lessened? Or what?

As if the repression of black people by ignorant white rednecks wasn't pre-planned.
 
OK, I need more shotgun shells. I used the ones I had on the other zombie thread!
 
Nova, I seem to recall Colvin's situation and such being outlined in Lies my Teacher Told Me by James Loewen. (His page here lists him as a sociologist, not a historian.) Sadly, I loaned my copy out at the beginning of the school year and have yet to get it back. Otherwise, I'd check for you.

Loewen's history is sometimes suspect. I've used of his work in my class, but "Lies" is often unreliable.
 
Is it just me or is this one of the dumbest conspiracy theories ever? Well, just after Lyte Trip's flyover...

The thing is, when you can't get anyone to listen to your 9/11 conspiracy raving anymore you need fresh material.
 
Totally off topic, but I had the honor of meeting Rosa Parks once. She impressed me as the epitome of dignity.
 
The goal of the Civil Rights Movement was to bring about the destruction of the Jim Crow South. What's wrong with using the best candidate available to bring that about? The methods of their adversaries were far more despicable than staging some clever theater. If they followed Jim Crow's example they'd have shot the drivers and burnt the buses.
 
Just for your info. Novaland, MaGZ is probably being serious about the Commie plot. He has some pretty strange ideas. I'm surprised he didn't say Rosa Parks was a Jew.
Well, the Ark of the Covenant is supposed to be hidden in some secret temple in Ethiopia. :eek:


The goal of the Civil Rights Movement was to bring about the destruction of the Jim Crow South. What's wrong with using the best candidate available to bring that about? The methods of their adversaries were far more despicable than staging some clever theater. If they followed Jim Crow's example they'd have shot the drivers and burnt the buses.
...hanged the drivers and left the bodies hanging in the trees as a warning to other "uppity" bus drivers.
 
Maybe if she was involved with the NAACP for some time she just knew what her rights were compared to others around her. Getting yourself educated is not being conspiratorial.

We know one thing. Alabama and most of the south were definitely racist at the time. There is no conspiracy theory about that.
 
Wait, what?

Events like this were planned and carried out repeatedly by the Freedom Riders. That is an openly-acknowledged, generally-acclaimed fact.

If Rosa Parks had been part of a similar planning effort, I don't think anybody would be at all uncomfortable saying so.

Had it been a staged event (I was involved in several of those, myself) there would be nothing surprising or wrong about it. Those planned/staged events were performed for a reason, generally a good one.

The thing is, all evidence says that it wasn't staged. The "movement" took several weeks to get their acts together and even decide on how to take advantage of the opportunity it now presented them.

The only thing uncomfortable about quarky's assertion is that it isn't supported by facts.

I think it goes deeper. I really don't know Qayak and he hasn't chosen to address this thread in five years, so I don't think this is necessarily addressed to him. I'm more interested in WHY people want to believe this sort of thing and/or why they think it makes any difference. As you said, whether it was planned or not really has no bearing whatsoever on the events that unfolded and the place this iconic event has in history. Somehow, tainting it with "pre-planning" or "lifetime activist" seems to satisfy a certain need.
 
I really don;t get the conspiracy angle. It's like says the 1927 Yankees conspired to bat Lou Gehrig #4 right after Babe Ruth. A local woman who was active in the civil rights struggle broke a local Jim Crow law in order to spark a confrontation and debate over said law.
 
Maybe if she was involved with the NAACP for some time she just knew what her rights were compared to others around her. Getting yourself educated is not being conspiratorial.

We know one thing. Alabama and most of the south were definitely racist at the time. There is no conspiracy theory about that.

Even if there was a conspiracy, why would it be bad to conspire against Jim Crow? I'd say the white southerners should be glad that the Civil Rights movement learned more from Ghandi than they did from Che Guevara.
 
I know this may sound silly, but does it really matter if she was a plant?

Rosa Parks was a hero for standing up against a racist law. If it was all planned beforehand or if she received a sudden spontaneous burst of inspiration to do what she did, it's all the same. Her cause was just.

That is my take on it too. On reading the thread title and OP, my reaction was, so what? To me it matters not at all whether her action was planned in advance or spontaneous.
 

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