Romney Will Explode the Debt By Trillions

[RandFan]

RINOs exist.

The ol' "heads I win tails you lose" ploy. Blame it all on RINOs. Never mind conservatives could never win anything without so called "RINOs". When you need them they are Republicans. When you've got problems they make for great scapegoats. So much for personal responsibility.

The republican congress had quite a bit to do with Clinton's performance in deficits.

Perhaps the negative correlation of Republicans and fiscal responsibility coupled with the correlation of Clinton and balanced budgets ought to be a cautionary tale about the demagoguery of Democrats.

Agreed. Damn shame taxing them at 100% makes such a minor difference to debt.

The Buffett rule alone would net around $50B a year. Closing corporate tax lop holes could net another $100B per year. It's a start.

 

[RandFan]

Keynesianism.

Please to list successful nations that have no Keynesian policies? I think this bogeyman needs to be called out.

 

[BenBurch]

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The Buffett rule alone would net around $50B a year. Closing corporate tax lop holes could net another $100B per year. It's a start.

The two together is ask much as Illinois' pension shortfall over the next 20 years.

 

[DDWW]

Raising the debt is fine by me as long as there is money for transportation infrastructure, i.e. repairing and or building highways & bridges.

DDWW

 

[12AX7]

Baloney. The Tea Party didn't exist during the eight years that GWB was racking up debt. It wasn't until after the election of Obama that they suddenly became outraged.




I think the Tea Partiers won't complain a lick as long as it's a GOPer who's doing the spending, just as they didn't complain for the eight years that Dubya was spending.

Steve S

This.

I'd love for a conservative/republican answer this.

AlBell, where was the Tea Party outrage when W was spending like there was no tomorrow?

 

[BenBurch]

This.

I'd love for a conservative/republican answer this.

AlBell, where was the Tea Party outrage when W was spending like there was no tomorrow?

They were all waiting for something to trickle down onto them.

All they got was yellow and warm.

 

[Beerina]

Now you are being really dishonest. Where has ANYBODY said that? Not here in this thread!

What we HAVE said is that Romney's positions are indistinguishable from those of the LAST "Moran" you guys installed as President, and you'd have to be stick-stone-bone stupid to think you can resume the policies of the that jug-eared sponge and get different results this time


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Typical Tea-Bagger

What's dishonest is people thinking the Dems would reverse course.

Romney would probably be at least a little better. However, he is of the same East Coast Republican cut as both Bushes, content to let spending increase rapidly, too, in exchange for Democrat acquiescence on whatever jackassery of the day he's up to.

 

[NoahFence]

Keynesianism.
Moral issues.
Ratio of Defense vs transfer payments.

No clue what the first word is or means...

Moral Issues? You think conservatives have the moral high ground? Unless hypocricy just became a positive moral value, you've lost me....

Please explain "Ratio of Defense vs. transfer payments"

 

[lomiller]

Romney would probably be at least a little better. However, he is of the same East Coast Republican cut as both Bushes, content to let spending increase rapidly, too, in exchange for Democrat acquiescence on whatever jackassery of the day he's up to.

LOL so it’s the democrats fault Republicans don’t cut spending for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and Defence?

These programs make up 6X the spending of all non-defence related departmental spending combined. I you are serious about cutting US government spending you have to make major cuts to these programs. Anyone who tries to tell you anything else is lying to you.

If Republicans what really wanted to eliminate spending these are the programs they would be talking about cutting. They are not interested in making serious spending cuts and will never do so because voters want these programs and are willing to spend the money required to have them when faced with a choice.

What the Republicans are promising is that you can have these expensive programs without paying for them. Promising something for nothing is a time honoured tradition and it works well for getting the gullible to vote for you. By that I mean only the gullible and those who directly benefit from deficit spending still vote Republican.

 

[geni]

You'd be wrong in that theory, then. I'm sure there are some racist jackasses opposed to Obama no matter what, but these Tea Party people in general got their start because the Republicans started climbing in bed with the Democrats to skyrocket the debt under Bush.

Well its an interesting theory but not really needed since we know where the Tea Party came from.

 

[Puppycow]

So to recap, the poor will get a tax increase. The very rich will get a windfall. And the debt will balloon by $3-$5 trillion dollars. All while slashing the safety net and infrastructure in order to pay for it.

In fact, it's even worse than that because he also wants to increase military spending by $2.1 trillion over the next decade.

So the debt will actually balloon by $5-7 trillion.

 

[Cain]

The cool thing about tax cuts is that they pay for themselves.

 

[Unabogie]

The cool thing about tax cuts is that they pay for themselves.

No they don't. They must be paid for.

With super secret plans only Mitt Romney knows.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...just-trust-me/2012/06/17/gJQAJi4IjV_blog.html

SCHIEFFER: You haven’t been bashful about telling us yo want to cut taxes. When are you going to tell us where you’re going to get the revenue? Which of the deductions are you going to be willing to eliminate? Which of the tax credits are you going to — when are you going to be able to tell us that?​

ROMNEY: Well, we’ll go through that process with Congress as to which of all the different deductions and the exemptions —​

SCHIEFFER: But do you have an ideas now, like the home mortgage interest deduction, you know, the various ones?​

ROMNEY: Well Simpson Bowles went though a process of saying how they would be able to reach a setting where they had actually under their proposal even more revenue, with lower rates. So, mathematically it’s been proved to be possible: We can have lower rates, as I propose, that creates more growth, and we can limit deductions and exemptions.​

So pay no attention to the fact that giving these giant gifts to billionaires will explode the deficit by trillions and trillions, while slashing needed social programs and first responders. Pay no attention to the fact that the very poor, who Mitt has said he's not concerned with, will see their taxes go UP.

Nope, just trust Mendacious Mitt, the Etch-a-Sketch candidate, to work this all out with the Republican congress. I'm sure those folks will make sure the wealthy don't take advantage of their new cuts. Sheldon Adelson will be first in line to help figure out a way to make him pay more to the Feds.

Again, the Teabaggers claimed to be upset about the debt. Mendacious Mitt talks about a "prairie fire of debt". And yet his plan will add trillions and trillions to the debt and do nothing more than hand away money to the absolute wealthiest among us.

So I am asserting that Teabaggers lied about caring about the debt, even a little. They're just as mendacious as their candidate.

 

[Ausmerican]

What's dishonest is people thinking the Dems would reverse course.

Romney would probably be at least a little better. However, he is of the same East Coast Republican cut as both Bushes, content to let spending increase rapidly, too, in exchange for Democrat acquiescence on whatever jackassery of the day he's up to.

Just to clarify; Reagan was one of those "East Coast Republican" "RINO" types too right?
Worse, he was a tax raising, amnesty giving, Hollywood RINO. So exactly who is your idea of a 'True Conservative Republican'? Because it seems that the usual examples of great republicans such as Lincoln, Teddy R, and Ronnie are all lefty commie pinkos that only lefty libs like these days.

 

[DavidJames]

Just to clarify; Reagan was one of those "East Coast Republican" "RINO" types too right?
Worse, he was a tax raising, amnesty giving, Hollywood RINO. So exactly who is your idea of a 'True Conservative Republican'? Because it seems that the usual examples of great republicans such as Lincoln, Teddy R, and Ronnie are all lefty commie pinkos that only lefty libs like these days.

Your mistake is expecting people to commit to specifics when in reality the only specific thing in their minds is "anyone but a Democrat". Especially amusing are libertarian types who prefer to spout platitudes which have never been "successful" anywhere outside of third world countries.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

We'll all get ponies first. Please take good care of yours.

What?

Were you attempting to add something to the discussion? You think it's a bad idea for the electorate to get the facts about what the budget proposals of the two candidates? You think it's unreasonable to think that will happen?

I expect most large mainstream media outlets will be doing a lot of post debate fact-checking.

 

[Peephole]

The cool thing about tax cuts is that they pay for themselves.

I don't even know whether this is sarcastic or not.

 

[ponderingturtle]

What I don't get is why anyone thinks that republicans care about the debt. It is a great election issue for them, and long term will be used to destroy the federal government like they want. High debt is a win win for them, so why expect them to even try to balance the budget?

 

[BenBurch]

What I don't get is why anyone thinks that republicans care about the debt. It is a great election issue for them, and long term will be used to destroy the federal government like they want. High debt is a win win for them, so why expect them to even try to balance the budget?

Happy Birthday!!!

 

[Neally]

If Republicans what really wanted to eliminate spending these are the programs they would be talking about cutting. They are not interested in making serious spending cuts and will never do so because voters want these programs and are willing to spend the money required to have them when faced with a choice.

They are not interested in changing the entitlement programs because the Dems will viciously attack them as trying to take away grandmas prescriptions and make her homeless. The GOP would do the same. Even BO has stated that reform is needed, but of course nothing has been done. It's a stalemate that will enable us to enjoy what the people of Greece are now experiencing!

But so what, you may ask? Why don't I deserve a tax cut?

Well, most of the tax cut won't go to you. The vast majority will go to rich folks, yet again.

Good news then. Most of the tax burden disproportionately falls on the rich. Nearly half of all people don't pay income tax. Time to flatten out the rates so that they are a bit more equitable.