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Romney has a Hispanic voter issue

That's not what anyone has claimed (I didn't read Lefty's post, sorry).

No one is suggesting that ethnicity dictates how they will vote, but ethnicity certainly does correlate with some priorities.
 
Really? This is the first I've heard of these things about Rubio. Do you have any sources on that?

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/101543-corruption-scandals-rock-florida-senate-race

Rubio, however, faces a reported IRS investigation into charges he used a state GOP credit card for personal expenses. Possibly also damaging, Rubio led the state House of Representatives at the same time that his Appropriations Committee chairman, former state Rep. Ray Sansom (R), is alleged to have engaged in an illegal appropriations scheme with a Northwest Florida college. Sansom later stepped down as House speaker and faces third-degree felony conspiracy charges in a trial that could prove embarrassing for Rubio.

He also has a campaign finance issue:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/28/2773042/fec-fines-marco-rubios-2010-senate.html

The Federal Election Commission fined Marco Rubio’s 2010 Senate campaign for failing to report more than $210,000 in campaign contributions.

Here's the "lied on his bio" issue, although it seems like less of an important issue to me:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...cuments-show/2011/10/20/gIQAaVHD1L_story.html
 
Because he was a Democrat?
Mostly, but that was a record number percent. Blacks gave Kerry 88 percent of the vote, Gore got 90 percent, and Clinton got 83 percent of the vote in 1992, and 84 percent in 1996.
 
I think he's pretty much screwed on the issue of immigration specifically. That's because the Tea Party keeps flexing their muscle in GOP primaries, ejecting Republicans like Dick Lugar because they are not conservative enough. So you'd better believe the Tea Party is going to keep pushing hard right on these issues, especially in the Southwest. So Romney has to appease these folks.

I'm not so sure. There aren't a hell of a lot of electoral votes in the Southwest, apart from California which is solidly blue, and Texas which is solidly red.
 
Mostly, but that was a record number percent. Blacks gave Kerry 88 percent of the vote, Gore got 90 percent, and Clinton got 83 percent of the vote in 1992, and 84 percent in 1996.

According to the National Review, Obama only received six percent more of the black vote than Democrats usually get (and only four percent more than Gore, who they say received 92%).
 
According to the National Review, Obama only received six percent more of the black vote than Democrats usually get (and only four percent more than Gore, who they say received 92%).
Yes, so I guess the question should be directed to those extra 6%.
 
Yes, so I guess the question should be directed to those extra 6%.

Sarah Palin. A well run campaign. And yes, I'm sure some are racist black people (those do exist). What it is not is a shocking or telling increase.
 
Sarah Palin. A well run campaign. And yes, I'm sure some are racist black people (those do exist). What it is not is a shocking or telling increase.
I don't know if I'd call people that vote for someone just because they look like them as necessarily racist. Understandable, not really rational, but not necessarily racist.
 
Alternatively you could ask why 96 percent of black voters supported Obama.

That's not the subject of the thread.

ETA: Although if that is an accurate statistic (it isn't obviously, but let's pretend), then that is a phenomenal turnout.
 
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Technically, I'd argue that increased turnout probably shifted things most for the black vote:

The levels of participation by black, Hispanic and Asian eligible voters all increased from 2004 to 2008, reducing the voter participation gap between themselves and white eligible voters. This was particularly true for black eligible voters. Their voter turnout rate increased 4.9 percentage points, from 60.3% in 2004 to 65.3% in 2008, nearly matching the voter turnout rate of white eligible voters (66.1%). For Hispanics, participation levels also increased, with the voter turnout rate rising 2.7 percentage points, from 47.2% in 2004 to 49.9% in 2008. Among Asians, voter participation rates increased from 44.6% in 2004 to 47.0% in 2008. Meanwhile, among white eligible voters, the voter turnout rate fell slightly, from 67.2% in 2004 to 66.1% in 2008.

Much of the surge in black voter participation in 2008 was driven by increased participation among black women and younger voters. The voter turnout rate among eligible black female voters increased 5.1 percentage points, from 63.7% in 2004 to 68.8% in 2008. Overall, among all racial, ethnic and gender groups, black women had the highest voter turnout rate in November's election -- a first.

Blacks ages 18 to 29 increased their voter turnout rate by 8.7 percentage points, from 49.5% in 2004 to 58.2% in 2008, according to an analysis by the Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement (CIRCLE) at Tufts University, The voter turnout rate among young black eligible voters was higher than that of young eligible voters of any other racial and ethnic group in 2008. This, too, was a first.

Linky.

Looking just at a population's division doesn't give the whole picture.
 

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