Roger Waters promotes 9/11 conspiracy theories...

[Vixen]

Indeed, you don't.

What would actually have happened, if it had got as far as a hearing, and you had asked to be allowed to present your skeleton, is that the judge would have said that they had already seen it. My version was just funnier. But the skeleton is not what is presented in court, it is just an advance summary to notify the court, and the other parties, of what will be argued.

You only needed it to be presented in court because you had claimed that there was a 30 minute time limit on presenting something in court so had to find something to avoid being wrong, and a "skeleton argument" sounded like something that might fit.

30 minutes is the general rule of thumb.

A skeleton argument presentation will depend on the court's Practice Directions. But the whole point of it is to set out what you are seeking to argue in a concise form.

Have you ever prepared a skeleton argment?

Have you ever addressed a panel of judges?

 

[Mojo]

You made that up

Indeed. A skeleton is not "handed in at the beginning of the hearing", it has to be submitted way in advance, otherwise it would be pointless. It's purpose is to allow the court, and other parties, to know in advance what will be argued.

 

[Mojo]

30 minutes is the general rule of thumb.

A skeleton argument presentation will depend on the court's Practice Directions.

It isn't presented. It is submitted to the court, and the other parties, in advance of the hearing. There are limits on the number of pages. There are no limits on the amount of time anyone is allowed to read those pages.

 

[Mojo]

Have you ever prepared a skeleton argment?

No, but at least I know what one is.

Have you ever addressed a panel of judges?

A rent tribunal was quite scary enough, thank you.

 

[Steve]

Guess we can add law to the long, long list of things Vixen makes up porkies about.

And the world would be a little bit better off if Roger Waters (the topic of this thread as I recall) was an actual skeleton.

 

[Vixen]

No, but at least I know what one is.

A rent tribunal was quite scary enough, thank you.

I rest my case.

 

[Steve]

I rest my case.

Because you, of course, have actually prepared a skeleton argument and have actually addressed a panel of judges.

 

[Mojo]

I rest my case.

You haven't even submitted a skeleton.

 

[Mojo]

And the world would be a little bit better off if Roger Waters (the topic of this thread as I recall) was an actual skeleton.

Give him time...

 

[Vixen]

You haven't even submitted a skeleton.

That is for you to ask and for me to tell.

 

[Reformed Offlian]

I rest my case.

Which does not mean that you have actually *made* your case; it simply means you have run out of relevant arguments. Which we already knew.

 

[Mojo]

That is for you to ask and for me to tell.

Please, try to read the post you are replying to and remember its context.

 

[Vixen]

Matt Campbell interviewed here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2111472455575310633

 

[Oystein]

... if Roger Waters (the topic of this thread as I recall) was an actual skeleton.

Then he could request an inquest.

 

[Oystein]

Matt Campbell interviewed here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2111472455575310633

This news outlet, "UK Column", is so irrelevant that neither it nor either of its founders has an entry in the English Wikipedia. However, a quick internet search shows that it is generally considered in the "right, conspiratorial" corner of the media whackiness spectrum:

"Overall, we rate the UK Column a strong right-wing biased conspiracy website that frequently promotes false or misleading information."
"UK Column is a conspiracy theory-oriented online media outlet ... UK Column also has areas of overlap with the far right."

Matt Campbell (who is on between ~18 and 28 minutes) himself appears rather reasonable, he does not talk much about 9/11 rubbish and sticks mostly to the procedural ins and outs of this current case and this week's hearings.
The two UK Column interviewers end up thanking him for his efforts - it's not exactly clear why. Is Campbell's sad family affair their business?

 

[SuperMurrio]

Matt Campbell interviewed here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2111472455575310633

I suspect nobody here cares. It's a complete waste of the legal system's time and resources.

Can you instead please bring forth your conspiracy theory arguments, so we can all have a good laugh? (We already had the rejoicing Israelis bit, but there must be more ).

 

[Mojo]

I suspect nobody here cares. It's a complete waste of the legal system's time and resources.

The question of whether the AG's decision is justiciable is not a waste of time.

 

[SuperMurrio]

Excuse my lack of patience. I will admit, it was the 9/11 conspiracies that brought me to ISF(JREF) all those years ago. Ashamedly, I fell for it. I believed the CTists were acting in good faith when they said there were no aircraft parts found at the Pentagon, and 'here's the proof' (lots of pictures with no aircraft parts). It took JREF, and Popular Mechanics, to point out that, actually, here are a bunch of photos of aircraft parts at the scene, that the CTists deliberately and dishonestly ignored. And all the other insinuations that proved to be vague or downright false, the impossible flight path, north of Citgo witnesses, melting point of steel, etc. It was a real lesson for me!

So I'm doing my bit these days with fighting back against the cherry-picking and deliberate dishonesty. (Also see Apollo and Estonia threads).

 

[Vixen]

Guess we can add law to the long, long list of things Vixen makes up porkies about.

And the world would be a little bit better off if Roger Waters (the topic of this thread as I recall) was an actual skeleton.

Judging others by your own standards again.

 

[Steve]

Judging others by your own standards again.

It's what I do. And I am really very good at it.