Cont: Roe v Wade overturned - this is some BS part II

[The Don]

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I disctinctly remember being told ◊◊◊◊ like this wasn't going to happen.

I wonder if being a person of colour will be considered a lifestyle choice in some states ?

 

[TragicMonkey]

My purple state narrowly went for Trump but on the same ballot there was a citizen's initiative that's actually more permissive than Roe v. Wade. It passed by a much larger margin.

Heh. In red state Missouri there was a vote to amend the state constitution to permit abortions and it passed. The Republican-dominated legislature simply undid it.

 

[plague311]

Heh. In red state Missouri there was a vote to amend the state constitution to permit abortions and it passed. The Republican-dominated legislature simply undid it.

The crazy part is the voters will vote for those same people again, despite them just overriding their vote.

 

[cosmicaug]

They are likely finally going after mifepristone at the federal level:

RFK Jr. Finally Gets Around to Bringing His War on Medical Science to Abortion

In a way, it’s surprising it took this long. Health and Human...

talkingpointsmemo.com

 

[Helen]

Weird. I would have assumed that both Sir Brain Worm and Lord Dampnut have benefitted from free abortion enough times to make them its staunchest defenders. But then this will not inconvenience any rich people, of course; the lives that will be wrecked are not important lives, just expendable ones.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

They are shooting blanks these days, so why would they care?

 

[Helen]

They are shooting blanks these days, so why would they care?

Out of nostalgia for the good old days of Trump's own Vietnam war? No, of course not, Trump probably thinks nostalgia is something you can get if you take too much tylenol.

 

[cosmicaug]

Weird. I would have assumed that both Sir Brain Worm and Lord Dampnut...

That's disrespectful. It's Cankles McTaco Tits!

 

[catsmate]

Despite the various claims and promises of the Usual Suspects in this and the previous threads USAian women are being persecuted by the baby protecting right.

Hundreds of US women charged with pregnancy-related crimes since fall of Roe

Study finds prosecutors targeting low-income women mainly in US south – and figure likely to be an undercount

www.theguardian.com

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

If only the Democrats had met them half way. Then only *some* of these women would have been persecuted. Clearly it's their fault.

 

[cosmicaug]

Despite the various claims and promises of the Usual Suspects in this and the previous threads USAian women are being persecuted by the baby protecting right.

Hundreds of US women charged with pregnancy-related crimes since fall of Roe

Study finds prosecutors targeting low-income women mainly in US south – and figure likely to be an undercount

www.theguardian.com

Notable is how the article alludes to treatment of fetuses as legal persons. This is what I have been saying all along. This leads to this going to the SCOTUS in a few years where 6:3 (barring court changes) will say "Geez, we really, really, really want to leave it up to the states, but between executive orders establishing personhood, various pieces of legislation doing the same and hundreds of prosecutions premised on attacks on unborn legal persons, our hands are tied by such an overwhelming amount of precedent and we must ban abortion at the federal level on 14th Amendment grounds" (that is, unless Republican legislators get ahead of the SCOTUS & legislate a federal ban themselves —though it's going to take a colossal level of voter suppression & electoral fraud or some unforeseen black swan type event for Republicans to be able retain enough power after the midterms to be able to do something like this).

 

[lobosrul5]

Waiting for the first neglect prosecution of a woman defying a doctor's order to take Tylenol and miscarrying because of it.

 

[smartcooky]

Despite the various claims and promises of the Usual Suspects in this and the previous threads USAian women are being persecuted by the baby protecting right.

Hundreds of US women charged with pregnancy-related crimes since fall of Roe

Study finds prosecutors targeting low-income women mainly in US south – and figure likely to be an undercount

www.theguardian.com

"The report indicates there are far more cases of miscarriage criminalization than have made national headlines. In one widely covered case in late 2023, police charged an Ohio woman with felony abuse of a corpse after she miscarried into a toilet. In another, earlier this year, a Georgia woman who had been found bleeding and unconscious after a miscarriage faced one count of concealing the death of another person, and one count of throwing away or abandonment of a dead body. The charges against both women were ultimately dropped."​

Hardly worth mentioning really, everyone knows it's the process that is the punishment.

 

[cosmicaug]

Using license plate reader surveillance.

From https://www.404media.co/police-said-they-surveilled-woman-who-had-an-abortion-for-her-safety-court-records-show-they-considered-charging-her-with-a-crime/

Court records show that the narrative Flock and a Texas Sheriff's Office has told the public isn't the whole story, and that police were conducting a 'death investigation' into the abortion.

 

[smartcooky]

Using license plate reader surveillance.

From https://www.404media.co/police-said-they-surveilled-woman-who-had-an-abortion-for-her-safety-court-records-show-they-considered-charging-her-with-a-crime/

The things the Repugnicans and some right-wing posters here said would never happen just seem to keep happening.

 

[theprestige]

The things the Repugnicans and some right-wing posters here said would never happen just seem to keep happening.

Yep. Name-calling aside, I got this one way wrong.

 

[smartcooky]

Yep. Name-calling aside, I got this one way wrong.

Well actually, I wasn't so much referring to you as I was to certain posters who insisted that pregnant woman had nothing to fear, and need not take any personal security precautions to keep from being surveilled. I was more thinking along the line of things like tracking of period apps as well as cellphone locations and conversations, than ANPR cameras.

 

[Resume]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1990917599807275257

Huh, I was assured this would never happen. Huh.

 

[Susheel]

Yep. Name-calling aside, I got this one way wrong.

Not the only thing you got wrong...

 

[Susheel]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1990917599807275257

Huh, I was assured this would never happen. Huh.

Something similar happened during the Obama administration too. Forget women, the doctors at that sausage fest were outnumbered by "religious leaders". Jon Stewart had a rant about it on The Daily Show. It was a House Oversight Committee hearing on the ACA contraception mandate.