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sadhatter said:
You beat me to it, lol.

The article is balanced, and i am especially happy at the title ( because lets face it that is all a lot of people are going to read). They missed a couple of points of mine, but otherwise i was happy to get the message out there.
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I read through the article a couple of times, and even with the typos and grammar mistakes, I don't feel it is balanced. Mind you, I am very biased against woo to begin with, but the article feels like it's trying to demonize the "hate group".

Perhaps a rebuttal on your site, just to clarify some of your points, and maybe a Swift article?
 
How many of those ticket buyers were actually skeptics who would have publicly humiliated Lorraine Scott? Weren't all the ticket buyers to Robbie Thomas' cancelled performance in Los Angeles planning such a stunt? Some people cannot abide such public humiliation. Others will do anything for a price. Apparently Dan Valkos is in the latter group.

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I read through the article a couple of times, and even with the typos and grammar mistakes, I don't feel it is balanced. Mind you, I am very biased against woo to begin with, but the article feels like it's trying to demonize the "hate group".

Perhaps a rebuttal on your site, just to clarify some of your points, and maybe a Swift article?
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I have been hearing that a lot, and i have to say it does lean a bit toward the woo. But i wouldn't say it is flat out demonizing us. I mean the woman quoted was ire filled, but the reporting itself was just a touch north of unbiased in my opinion.

I am currently working on a rebuttal though and will be forwarding it to sarnia skeptic and the person running stoprobbiethomas. While i do not think Tara was overly biased, the hate from the interviewed woman was quite obvious.
 
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How many of those ticket buyers were actually skeptics who would have publicly humiliated Lorraine Scott? Weren't all the ticket buyers to Robbie Thomas' cancelled performance in Los Angeles planning such a stunt? Some people cannot abide such public humiliation. Others will do anything for a price. Apparently Dan Valkos is in the latter group.

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That is one of my main points. Mrs Scott simply thought " well they could do something that will make me look like an a-hole, and i can get publicity by backing out , so its a win win for me."

To those like Dan though, i would like to point out, that any person they may interview, read, or otherwise screw with in my city, may be one of us. We won't disrupt, we certainly will not harm them, but we will use the information gained in order to prove their lack of psychic powers.
 
Sadhatter, did you get a hardcopy of the newspaper? It is on the front page! I don't buy it but I had to today..... Thanks for your willingness to go so public.

We will have to see the reactions of the people reading the paper tonight to see if we get more comments on the http://sarniaskeptic.blogspot.com/

We are bound to get the computer illiterate theists writing letters to the editor. I sent an email to the newspaper asking them to un-ban me from posting - ya, right, I am dreaming.

I too think that Tara Hagan is biased against us and supports woo woo and religion.

I say repeating calling us a "hate group" doesn't make it so!

Has someone sent Robbie (Poulton) Thomas a copy of the newspaper? http://www.stoprobbie.com/ should get more visitors now.... they need to put a visitor counter on there!

For all others that want to read all the comments, there are 2 postings of the article.
http://www.theobserver.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2574070 posted late Tuesday evening
http://www.theobserver.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2574943 posted the next morning
 
I'm posting the comments for the day that they are taken down. Remember this thread is a record for later...

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I think having people such as psychics would harm cancer people or people who lost a loved one. Holding onto a peice of pasychic word that they may go in remission then dont could cause some one to kill them selves or even herrase this psychic to no ends. To claim to see passed loved ones with little actual proof their near could really mess with fragile grieving people. this isn't right! If some people truely believe in psychic then they can seek them out on there own not have to sit threw it at an event!! plain and simple. I hope these people think before creating an even that could destroy some one in the end.
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Post #1 By NorthenMom, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
Parasites... plain and simple.
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Post #2 By Grunthead, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
The idea of hiring a parasitic scam artist in an effort to allay the suffering of those who've lost love ones to cancer is the most bone-headed thing I've heard in a long time.
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Post #3 By freedomsfart, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
I feel like alot of people passing judgement may not have dealt firts hand with cancer...or maybe not. I feel that anything that brings any positive thoughts or a smile to anyone who has the weight of the world on thewir shoulders cannot be harmful. The Skeptic doesn't have to believe but some people need something to believe in. Why not just let them? I had many people pray, chakra rocks, native medicine, holistic therapy, etc anything that I thought MIGHT work- it is called HOPE! Please don't tell me I am wrong to have HOPE that I MIGHT feel happy for 5 minutes with the Physic Healer! I may loose my hair but don't take MY hope!
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Post #4 By concerned101, 1 day ago | 1 Votes | Vote:
there is a sucker born every minute
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Post #5 By no spin zone, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
Psychics should be illegal like Prostitutes.
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Post #6 By sarnian, 23 hours ago | -1 Votes | Vote:
Psychics are absolutely ridiculous, but so is any form of supernatural nonsense.
I'm guessing that some of this anti-psychic group is religious in a traditional sense, and likely prays for salvation, forgiveness, cures from disease, the killing of their enemies in war, winning touchdowns, et al. They're not that much different from those they oppose.
Some people need to pin their hopes on things beyond their scope; that's just the way life is when you're a sentient being with very limited understanding. We humans live with great uncertainty, and many people can't handle that. They find it chaotic and unsettling. So what can they do? Sometimes, we grope about in the dark and make up answers that keep us calm. So far, it's the human condition, whether we search for answers from the afterworld, a character with a flowing white beard or the flying spaghetti monster.
We are, metaphorically, children who are afraid of bumps in the night. Often, what we don't fully unserstand, we'll create from whole cloth.
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Post #7 By Longtime Sarnian, 23 hours ago | -1 Votes | Vote:
You would think if she was psychic that she would be able to see if Sarnia Skeptic posed a threat to her.
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Post #8 By cdio, 20 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
Yeah, didn't see that one coming.
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Post #9 By TexCan, 18 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote: The psychic off of Exmouth on East, bunch of friends and I went to see her, for fun, She wanted $1000 to rid me of the devil who she claimed follows me.
A woman left before us in tears she told us in the waiting room she spoke to her dad she never met. SO how would she know if the info the psychic gave her about this person was true? That seems fishy. Oh well i didn't Pay the $1000 so i guess satan is will me still. I'll never by into that woman ever and after reading on about this psychic he has enough hate groups out there shouldn't worry about us small town rofl. But seems like people from all over the world who don't like this man would come to the event to tell him off. I hope he doesn't put fauls hope in people who are terminal or say some one is clear when there not. I hope he doesn't come here and say some person with blond hair, green eyes tall funny fair sized woman who had a ring with 4 diamonds is there and ready to talk to who ever she belongs too.
I dont think its harmfull if you go see one on your own to expiences what there about, believe or not, but to have one at a very emotional event NO WAY!!!! what are people thinking!
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Post #10 By NorthenMom, 17 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
At what point was this vigilante group given the power to make decisions for other people? If people want to pay their hard earned money to see a psychic, why should anyone try to stop them?? Especially when its a fundraiser.
The only right thing to be done by this crack-group of activists is to donate $1000 to the Cancer society for the damage they caused by not minding their own friggin business.
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Post #11 By billbo, 16 hours ago | 2 Votes | Vote:
Are you all smoking crack? Sarnia is full of people like you that have to give their closed minded opinions on everything, no matter the subject. I suppose you all oppose growth and think the speed limit of 70 on the 402 is right also.
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Post #12 By badazzbarbie, 16 hours ago | -1 Votes | Vote:
no thanks to Psychics
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Post #13 By Al the man, 16 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
I think some of us are far to serious. People have a choice whether to go to this fundraiser or to stay home, believe the psychic or not. I have been to many. I have attended gatherings in homes (and my home) where we all had a fun and entertaining evening. Someone always hears something that makes them wonder (maybe not believe)if there is some truth. Usually discussing, questioning and having a laugh. We gave up our money willingly. Lighten up people.
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Post #14 By Think before you comment, 16 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:
Billbo, well said this city is full of people that seems their only existence of having no life is to invade others. The Cancer society is out of money I agree, so what if some freak wants to say they talked to a dead person you never met and fool you, have you seen most of the Doctors in this city, I choose a Psychic any day.
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Post #15 By Squirrel420, 15 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
I agree think. Sarnians........RELAX. Its 25 bucks for charity and likely fun. As far as I know people still have freedom of choice.
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Post #16 By oldmanontalfourd, 15 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:
She may or may not be a real psychic, but it would have given those people hope. When you have cancer hope is all that you have. False hope is better than no hope. People with no hope simply give up. The skeptic group should mind their own business. If you don't believe that's fine, but don't impose your beliefs on others.
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Post #17 By Tamara108, 15 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
Gee. I bet they never thought about having a priest or a minister come to their event to council people.
If these psychics (Like Sylvia Brown) are, in reality, talking to anything from beyond, they're certainly not talking to dead people. What they are talking to is pretty scary. Yet again, we live in a biblically illiterate society and people flock to wierdos for answers. Check out 1 Samuel 28:7-30.
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Post #18 By wardo, 15 hours ago | -1 Votes | Vote:
Northenmom I am glad that you did not pay the psychic(maria) on Exmouth and East she is very much not a psychic. She says this to everyone that the devil is following them so she can get the money and then go to the Casino to have some fun. I am not a beleiver of psychics , they are all fake they just want to make you beleive in something that is not there. I understand that people need hope but there are other ways of getting that hope and it's certainly not from a so called psychic.
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Post #19 By letitgo, 14 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
The "hope" should be in the multi millions of dollars the government rakes in every year for research.The very thought of some flake making claims to do what scientists are not able to do is a direct insult to anyone stricken with any form of this terrible disease.There are enough wierdo's south of the border
making all these stupid claims just to suck money out of people by pretending to be what they are not.People need to believe in themselves and seek more positive ways to lessen the pain of the disease than giving morons their money.Both my parents died of cancer and if one of these flakes had tried to extort money from them with these B.S. claims I would have put them in the ground with them.Don't be stupid and let these people gain from your pain.We have enough politicians that do that under the name of the law!!!!!!!!!
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Post #20 By 62strat, 14 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
There would have been no harm done. They are a religion called Spritualist.
The Psychic on East Street is a fraud. Don't waste ur money. i also don't agree with the radio announcer being a psychic. Spritualist do not ask for money for their service. I have sent messages by phone 7 hours away and they have turned out to be helpful. I don't have any money and don't ask for money. I am just the messenger.
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Post #21 By maindrag, 14 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
Tracy Marcolin is not to smart,Why would you get something as controversial as a Psychic for a fund raising event.
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Post #22 By The Law, 14 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:
Yeah well every thing is controversial, I have problems listening to most Doctors because they are full of it. I had my nose broke in the General Hospital ER room one day because the wife had a urinary track infection and the Doctor told she had Chlamydia. This made me laugh. So sorry psychic anytime.
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Post #23 By Squirrel420, 13 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
i've had friends that go to psychics and feel better about themselves and relieved. I personally think its a sham and usually stating the obvious. My one friend contacted one, MANY years ago, the lady at the Elephant & Castle in the bayside mall. She said to wear what has meaning to u and give her any info she wants to know. So my friend loved horses and the colour green. She wore a necklace with a Horsehead on it and a green sweater. Can u guess where this is going? Psychic: I see horses in a barn! Friend: omg i love horses! Psychic: I see green, maybe green pastures, with horses running free. Friend: i love green, we have green grass. and so on. I was laughing so hard since I was sitting in opposing booth and was thinking, I would have only charged her half what she charged. But when all was said and done, even though I knew how fake and absurd it was, my friend believed in it, was happy and that was good enough for me. People give to their churches every Sunday and we all know how many frauds are mixed up in those bags of chestnuts, so if people want to waste their money on things they believe in, let them.
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Post #24 By Duncan, 13 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:
If a loves one on the others side as psychic puts it. Then the loved one would talk to the person them selves i dont by into no harm when some one who claims to be psychic says on my dear you will be in remision next year for 8 years, and then 3 weeks later finds out there dying thats harm done on some one fauls hopes. when a person who claims to be psychic says oh Mrs in the blue shirt you have a big strong loud funny man who passed i feel he is a father or grandfater male around you? Thats called fishing people. If you have to pay for lies and fishing then save your money and go fishing at the water front and find all kinds of bad fish there! Its not the issue of having one there its the fact people who want to suport cancer want to go dont want to pay to attend and have to sit threw some rambling from a psychic. Let him go he isn't to be paid nor should he be able to seek people out in anyway. and the people whom are organizing this event shouldn't allow him to give fauls hopes of remision or fishing for loved ones messages, no donation he wants to be there to "help" then its free of charge plain and simple if he is true to his word then this shouldn't be an issue. If being a psychic is his job then he needs to find a real one!! No one is saying people shouldn't believe its about honesty and trust taking money to give a message isn't honest! even with my poor english i dont see why the cancer sociaty thinks this is a good thing.
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People should probably read SarniaSkeptic's blog.
He does an excellent job of explaining what he has a problem with - and for everyone else's knowledge, I know that $1000 was donated by the skeptical group to the Canadian Cancer Society's website using a credit card - to cover any losses that speaking out against it would have incurred. That's 40 people who didn't have to get abused! We aren't about getting publicity for ourselves and the blog about Lorraine Scott was simply that. If you disagree with us, start your own blog - the freedom of speech is yours.
Skepticism is not about taking away hope. It is a method of judging evidence and drawing conclusions and it does a lot of good.
If psychics existed and the goal was about helping the Canadian Cancer Society, why don't they give Lisa's Angels the winning lottery numbers for next weeks draw?
As Michael Shermer says - talking to the dead is the easy part. Getting them to talk back is the tough part.





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Post #1 By stoprobbiethomas, 12 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:






Marcolis should have taken the "healer", Lorraine Scott, directly to the cancer ward at the hospital. No need for research here, if you believe her claims.
Lisa's Angels made a very poor choice of entertainers. Twice!





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Post #2 By Dahnash, 12 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:






another scam artist!!!





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Post #3 By 72gssaturn, 12 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:






It's just entertainment folks. It's not like she's the lady down on east & exmouth. It's like those people that go to the casino, those people are throwing their money away and having fun doing it. If people want to throw their money away, it's their own choice. So what if they're wrong. I mean really add a disclaimer to the advertising and leave it at that!





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Post #4 By tamara108, 9 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:






Tamara - You think that adding a "for entertainment purposes only" will mean anything after a psychic gives you a message from a "departed, loved one"? Are you to believe it or was she just "entertaining" you?
And I doubt that anyone looking to be healed will appreciate being "entertained".





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Post #5 By Dahnash, 8 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:





I agree with Hulshof and the "skeptics" (I'd call them rational realists).
"Psychics" have no place at a fundraising event for cancer research. "Psychic" scam artists prey on vulnerable people and should not be paid from money that is raised for cancer research.





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Post #6 By Norender, 8 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:






In response to "sarnian", I agree psychics should be illegal. What they do is fraud, plain and simple. Prostitutes, however, provide a concrete service for their fee. As long as they deliver as advertised, I see no problem with them. I think prostitutes should be legal. Comparing them to psychics besmirches the prostitutes' good name.
In response to all those who say there's nothing wrong with psychics if they make people feel better, I ask:
How about financial advisors? Do you think it would be OK for me to charge you $100 for finanacial advice and then just make a bunch of crap up? How about lawyers? What if you paid a lawyer $500 to write up and file a will for you, then when you died, your loved ones discovered he'd never actually done it? Would that be OK? I'm sure you would have felt fine about while you were alive. Isn't that the important thing? Psychics are con artists - plain and simple. While it is unfortunate the fund-raising group had their activities disrupted - by the sole decision of their "celebrity" guest - you cannot fault the Sarnia Skeptic's group for simply trying to protect the public against these fraudsters.





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Post #7 By Gr8wight, 7 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:






There is no shortage of cancer society fundraisers. Walks, runs, bake sales, heck you can't even turn around without knocking over some sort of "pink ribbon" branded merchandise.
Supporting reason and standing up against these creepy people that are willing to crap all over the memories of peoples loved ones should be applauded. If I were to sell my miraculous "patent medicine" to support the cancer society I'd be a criminal, psychics should be treated the same way.





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Post #8 By PrimevilKneivel, 5 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:






Gr8wight... I think what you're talking about are insurance companies. That's one industry where they expect you to pay for something they will fight to the death to make sure you never receive. And it's legal, for goodness sakes.





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Post #9 By Longtime Sarnian, 4 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:






what the heck is all the ballou all about. How can Psychic possible be bad I use it all the time in real life. It was my favorite subject in school, waves, and light refraction, and D/T=S...I love Psychic. When are you people gunna........*whats that hunny.*.*.*....oh PSYCHIC.....not PHYSICS....umm...ok....ahhhh....nEver mind :-/





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Post #10 By freedomsvoice, 4 hours ago | -1 Votes | Vote:






all of you against a little "entertainment of this nature" just go back to your 'casino" and drop your dollars (likley a lot more than 25" and enjoy your entertainment. or go to the movies and watch some fictional charactors for 'enetertainment" but God forbid (and He may even be billed as entertainment for i don't know anyone who has seen Him lately) that anyone be allowed to pay 25 bucks for a night of entertainment of a psychic





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maybe she's right.After all she is a psychic.If she is so good she should have seen it coming and declined the offer to appear
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Post #1 By moonovergreenboy, 15 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
This article makes me very upset. This seems to be an instilled pattern with these people...when psychics...spiritualist...healing medium or whatever other name these people are choosing to call themselves, as they continue to use and abuse people during their darkest days. I am pretty sure I am qualified to speak out about this subject, since my family was and continues to be used and abused by local self-proclaimed psychic Robbie Thomas and the many, many other psychics who continue to prey on my family because of my sister's unsolved homicide. A very hard learning lesson to experience as we were told 5-years ago Karen's murder would be solved 5-years ago. NO thought or compassion to the families they lie to, as we continue to live in this turmoil.

Lorraine Scott, duplicates Robbie Thomas's reaction to his failure...their projection on others as they scramble to blame others and manipulate the truth, just because the cash register came up empty while trying to make money off of the dead, the sick, and the grieving, while claiming they are the victims...(afraid for their lives...BULL****.) This must be written in "How to be a Psychic" book somewhere because they all resort to role reversal...from the offender to the offended, from the ABUSERS to the victims. Does Lorraine Scott know on how many people have in "fact" died from cancer...believing in what she claims to be? Why is the Canadian Cancer Society attaching themselves to this bull**** in order to raise money for a "CURE," when these people claim to be the CURE!
The Sarnia Skeptic group is NOT a hate group (co-psychic, Robbie Thomas's label) but a group of people who care about the ABUSE being inflicted on people who have been dealt incomprehenible sitations in life. They unlike Lorraine Scott recognize the "harm" being done to families and have choosen, "FREE OF CHARGE" to stop this kind of ABUSE. The 40-people she calims are bummed out, will get over it but it will not be so easy to get over what you planned on telling them about their loved deceased family members or what you recommend they do to heal themselves of cancer.

Marcolin...truth is not sabotage. Sabotage is when a psychic tells a family a bunch of bull****, which alters their emotional state and alters their memories of someone they loved. Sabotage is when a psychic uses reputable charities like the The Canadian Cancer Society or Missing and Murdered Children Society to make money for themselves. Sabotage is when a medium healer claims to be able to heal someone of cancer and they die. If TRUTH is sabotage than you are correct...you and your group are being sabotaged.
Kathy Caughlin/Unsolved Homicde Survivor/Abused Victim of Psychic Predators
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Post #2 By Kathy caughlin, 15 hours ago | 3 Votes | Vote:
I can speak, with certainty, when I say that SarniaSkeptic did NOT apologize. If you read the article, it is clear that he was writing it tongue in cheek (he even said that in the blog posting).
Psychics do real harm. Robbie, Lorraine and Dan are all not psychic. They are either lying to themselves or, even worse, lying to everyone else.
Lorraine was coming to Canada and was going to be paid. She wasn't doing this out of the goodness of her heart. I would suggest, too, that Dan is not doing it for free. Despite any "positive" intentions, the end result is emotional harm.
The Canadian Cancer Society funds SCIENCE BASED RESEARCH and to suggest psychic powers, healing arts and the like is to be ANTI-SCIENCE. Psychics have never solved a crime using claimed psychic powers and these "healers" have never healed a single person - unless the condition was an overtly thick wallet.
Come on, skepticism is a positive thing. It will save you and I from being scammed and abused. And for those in vulnerable states, it is your job and my job to prevent others from abusing them.
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Post #3 By stoprobbiethomas, 14 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:
This is Ryan.
I first would like to extend my sympathies to Kathy. Robbie Thomas is the sick individual who made me want to take the leap and get active in the local community. What he did and is doing to your family, trying to spin your tears into gold, is heartbreaking.
This is not about us being right, this is not about attention, and it sure as heck is not about violence. This is about helping people who are being taken advantage of by these vultures who prey upon people in thier times of dire need.
It sucks Mrs Scott bailed on her promise to the relay for life. But it is not our doing. We have done nothing that would indicate we would harm anyone. She simply did not want to deal with the possibility that before she got here people would be educated on her tricks. And to do this she broke a promise to a charity. For Friggen Shame Mrs Scott.
We support Kathy and all others like her, and if there is someone scamming in our city we will bring it to light. Not harm anyone, not harass, but bring their shady tactics to light.
Finally i would like to thank the observer for giving me this opportunity. I feel that i was quoted in context and correctly.
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Post #4 By Ryan Hulshof, 13 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:
This is a free country if some people want to see a psychics, and beleive in them ,they are the ones that are paying to see them, other people that don;t like them , don;t go and see them . this is a fundraiser, Lets get together and raise lots of money''''''
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Post #5 By jen pimentel, 11 hours ago | -1 Votes | Vote:
I donated $25 to the church to have my sins forgiven, but I don't feel any better...
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Post #6 By laceyp, 11 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
Expose the scammers!! All psychics are frauds and should be treated as such. Nice, how they try to play victim and claim to feel threatened. That's a bunch of hogwash.
They are now trying to jump on board a charity to share their scammed money with. They prey on the week and take advantage of their week emotional state. I'm gonna check out this skeptic group, seems like they've got a good thing going.
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Post #7 By aristotle, 10 hours ago | 2 Votes | Vote:
It is not ok to hurt people while trying to help others. This event seems to be a good example of that. As a part of the skeptic group who has been speaking out against people like Robbie Thomas I am proud of what we have accomplished. As far as people being threatened, the only instance of that I am aware of is when Mr. Thomas threatened me in and email after I called into question his claims.
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Post #8 By Reap, 10 hours ago | 2 Votes | Vote:
If Lorraine Scott is truly psychic, and wants to help out charity, why doesn't she apply for the James Randi Million Dollar Challenge? Surely she wouldn't be averse to given even 10% of the winnings to "Lisa's Angels".
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Post #9 By TheDoLittle, 10 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:
To Jen Pimental....I don't think you understand the entire situation with Psychics. Just yesterday my family again was sought out and tactics were used to play on our emotions regarding the unsolved murder of our sister Karen Caughlin. Urging us to contact a psychic who claims she has the answers. You are right if you do not believe that is your choice but what I don't think you are grasping is these people "PREY" on dire situations. What part of this do you respect...what part of this would be acceptable to your family if all of a sudden you started reading about a deceased memeber of your family and what your were reading was lies and the lies were being told to promote a psychic who was hoping to cash in on the life of someone you loved?
THESE PEOPLE ARE ABUSING OTHER PEOPLE ALL FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING MONEY!!
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Post #10 By Kathy Caughlin, 10 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:
 
THESE PEOPLE ARE ABUSING OTHER PEOPLE ALL FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING MONEY!!"
Thank you Kathy for speaking out on this I am sorry for all the leeches that are looking to cash in on your loss. I find it nothing less than sick.
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Post #11 By reap, 9 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:
The way i see it is this ( in respect specifically to Mrs Scott).
I am selling a medicine that has attracted a lot of media attention due to its ability to cure cancer. Now medical science has proven me completely wrong and proven my medicine is pure bunk. But i still bring in a big crowd because of the media hype and my personal charisma.
Would it then be okay to set up a fundraiser with me as the head speaker? Would the end justify the means in this case as well?
And if not, at what point would the benefit to the charity outweigh the harm i am doing to the world at large? 1 thousand dollars? 10 thousand dollars?
The answer, in my opinion , is nothing. Nothing can justify giving support to someone who makes their living off of the suffering and vulnerability of people in their darkest moments. The temporary gains will not outweigh even the financial toll on the victims , let alone the emotional one.
And this is exactly what people like Mrs Scott are doing. Except instead of saying it is a pill, they are saying it is their superpowers that are doing it. And that seems to be what makes it okay in some people's eyes.
I say no, i do not buy the " what's the harm?" logic in this situation. Because the harm is obvious, these people 'give' money with the hand you can see, and take it with the hand you can't.
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Post #12 By Ryan Hulshof, 7 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:
There truly is a sucker born every minute.
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Post #13 By vondaaa
 
This Lorraine Scott business should have its own thread, none of this has anything to do with Robbie, other than his name being used as an example in the article.

Personally, I didn't think that article was very balanced at all. While they made effort to cover both sides equally, I don't like how the last word was a quote from Marcolin expressing her determination to press on despite sabotage attempts from "hate groups."

I am wary of fundraiser organizers. They put all this together so they can appear selfless and charitable, when expenses come out of the donation money so it ultimately costs them nothing to create a good PR opportunity for whichever company employs them by day, which usually has a kiosk at such events with their own logo all over the promotional materials.

Marcolin was more concerned with her event than actually helping people, otherwise she'd do some research and not allow these phony psychics to come and sell crazy for their share of the publicity pie.
 
These are all the deleted comments!?

Wtf. Way to silence the vast majority of the people for nothing more than voicing support for the skeptics.

I wonder if they will ban me for mentioning the insane amount of comment deletion?
 
These are all the deleted comments!?
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What?

I took the comments from the site before they were deleted. Are you saying they deleted the comments from the orignal site?
 
sgf8 said:
What?

I took the comments from the site before they were deleted. Are you saying they deleted the comments from the orignal site?
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I am confused.

What i am stating is that at the observer website these comments are not there as of when i looked. But i think i am missing something.
 
sadhatter said:
I am confused.

What i am stating is that at the observer website these comments are not there as of when i looked. But i think i am missing something.
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I was confused too until I went back a page in the forums here and noticed that halohms called it.

halohms said:
For all others that want to read all the comments, there are 2 postings of the article.
http://www.theobserver.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2574070 posted late Tuesday evening
http://www.theobserver.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2574943 posted the next morning
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There are in fact two separate articles, each with their own set of comments. I was wondering why many of the comment had disappeared and other posted at the same time showed up.

Because of that, GM awards halohm "+2 Internets".
 
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What are "+2 Internets"? Did I win something? LOL

Robbie is Sioux City, Iowa tonight at 8pm to 10pm. I guess he saw his girlfriend there that he is cheating on his wife with. Hope his wife got him the newspaper and hope she saw the web sites saying he is cheating on her.

Any skeptics going to his show tonight?
 
TheDoLittle said:
I was confused too until I went back a page in the forums here and noticed that halohms called it.



There are in fact two separate articles, each with their own set of comments. I was wondering why many of the comment had disappeared and other posted at the same time showed up.

Because of that, GM awards halohm "+2 Internets".
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Yeah some research showed me that as well, why the heck are their 2 postings? And to a lesser extent, 2 postings with the same mistakes in them? ( such as the glaring skim through of Sarnia skeptic's article. )

I used to have faith in the observer, i really did.
 
The observer posts stuff on line in the evening and reposts them the next day. They posted this piece at about 9pm that night and that is what had the large number of comments on it.

I haven't heard back about them re-enabling my commenting account so I must be really hated by those theist editors and online managers.

So, Sadhatter, are you going on Sunday to have your future read?
 
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