Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

[mushy]

TBH Rob, i don't like long drawn out posts, they tend to go off topic and to many points are made and things get missed and not answered.

I accept that you view a win and the ultimate goal of a freeman is not to end up in cout, but as we have seen this happens. The question is Do freemen win in court? Is it possible for them to win in court? If so, are you aware of any freemen winning in court?

 

[mushy]

Rob, like i said, i have no love for the randi forum, i find alot of their posters smug and arrogant. That said, my role play of the buffet is how it appears to be, this may not be your intention, but im letting you know, the way you discuss things at the minute leads people like myself to draw that conclusion.

I'd suggest you change up a few things if you don't like being thought of as a con man, because your refusal to accept certain points and ignore certain evidnece, sure makes it look like you are being disingenious.

 

[mushy]

When did you ever give me $800?
Either you did or you didn't, and if you didn't the simple truth is you are here and now lying.

Mushy ask Stacey if he ever personally gave me any money, and if he says no, I would like to point to his words as an example of the lies they speak, and to which you have been listening.

I've no need to, i have not read 50% of this thread, but even i know its a reference to the lance thatcher case, im sure you are aware of this too. Why try and misreprest the point, its shady and makes you look like you are hiding something, which is partly why ive come to the conclusion i have about you.

 

[Mojo]

Got any proof you can govern me without my consent?

Nobody has claimed they can do that. You have been told this repeatedly, but you still bring up this strawman argument. This sort of behaviour does not enhance your credibility.

Got any proof you can hire, elect or appoint someone to do what you cannot?

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/Const/

 

[mushy]

Also, regarding freeman valley i understand ur reluctance at setting it up, the initial land costs would be huge, but where i was located until last week in South Australia, the land is $120 an acre, so basically you could have a 10 acre plot of farm land for $1200

also, its very off the grid, no police about, literally the closest town, 50kms away does not have a police officer and its only about 6 buildings big. Yiou are talking 10 hour drive to the nearest major city (Adelaide), thought it might have been perfect for freeman valley.

 

[Baldric]

"I have proof, you're just to naive to comprehend it"

"You have no proof to refute my position, therefore my position must be correct. If you accept this you will be much happier"

Catholics have been pushing this line for centuries and it still doesn't wash.

 

[Mojo]

Also, regarding freeman valley i understand ur reluctance at setting it up, the initial land costs would be huge...

Not a problem. All Rob has to do is cash in his birth bond.

Mind you, he'd better do it before word gets around. Once everyone realises they can do this, property prices will go through the roof.

 

[Baldric]

Not a problem. All Rob has to do is cash in his birth bond.

The bond was created by the Government without his consent, ergo the bond does not exist.

That's logic, that is.

 

[Stacey Grove]

Refusing to even examine it, because you have convinced yourself the presenter is a con artist or a clown, is not refuting the logic, it is refusing it.

It is because I have examined your stuff thoroughly I have come to the opinion you are a conman, not because I have refused to examine it. The reason I believe you are a conman is quite simple: your legal arguments have absolutely no basis in the law that is enforced by the courts. Even though the courts have rejected your stuff, and you are aware of that, you still continue to promote it as valid and are willing to take money off people knowing it will fail.

 

[Mojo]

The bond was created by the Government without his consent, ergo the bond does not exist.

That's logic, that is.

The wrong logic, but the correct answer.

 

[Stacey Grove]

I've no need to, i have not read 50% of this thread, but even i know its a reference to the lance thatcher case, im sure you are aware of this too. Why try and misreprest the point, its shady and makes you look like you are hiding something, which is partly why ive come to the conclusion i have about you.

Of course Menard recognised that immediately. That figure of $800 will haunt him forever. The Thatcher story was what prompted the start of his demise over at Icke's. Even they could see that taking Thatcher's money was the work of a conman.

 

[Baldric]

Do you pay your taxes?
Have you read the Income Tax Act?

No. Yes.

If the answer is yes and then no, you are an idiot. A non-questioning, do what you are told, idiot. Have fun with that.

Ergo, I am not an idiot.

 

[dafydd]

Also, regarding freeman valley i understand ur reluctance at setting it up, the initial land costs would be huge, but where i was located until last week in South Australia, the land is $120 an acre, so basically you could have a 10 acre plot of farm land for $1200

also, its very off the grid, no police about, literally the closest town, 50kms away does not have a police officer and its only about 6 buildings big. Yiou are talking 10 hour drive to the nearest major city (Adelaide), thought it might have been perfect for freeman valley.

Yes, well away from normal, sane people.

 

[Border Reiver]

Rob - the Crown governs you all the time. For instance, are you able to use commercial air flights to travel without government issued ID?

Did Westjet refund your ticket?

That would be the government governing you without your consent and a private company doing the same.

 

[Border Reiver]

It'll be a limited world tour if you can't get out of the country.

 

[Border Reiver]

Ooops, duplicate post

 

[Boot2TheHead]

logic

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Every time Menard uses that word an angel's head explodes out of sheer irony.

It's not so much "logic" as it is frantically attempting to rationalize away reality (Probably my absolute favorite Menard moment. It perfectly illustrates the insanity and dishonesty on his part)

 

[D'rok]

FreemanMenard is just a failed Turing Test at this point. Even Cleverbot has a broader repertoire.

 

[jargon buster]

It's not so much "logic" as it is frantically attempting to rationalize away reality (Probably my absolute favorite Menard moment. It perfectly illustrates the insanity and dishonesty on his part)

I just wonder if Menard is secretly trying to tell us he has never actually sold any of his packages, after all isn't the WFS site advertisement an 'invitation to treat' until money actually changes hands?

 

[Bishop]

The way I see it, if you want a life which gives you a greater degree of freedom and responsibility, you must go out and prove to yourself you can do so. No one can do that for you.

You keep falling back on this argument of "I cannot do it for you, you must do it yourself." That is not what we are discussing. We are not asking you to make any of us freemen. What we are asking you to do is provide evidence that the police and courts, the people with the overwhelming power, agree with you that you are free from their rules and don't try to enforce them on you. That is not an abstract or philosophical question. It is a very simple question concerning the actions of other people, and it should be easily provable.