Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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Considering that Menard started this line of discussion by wrongly pretending that President Obama recognizes freeman philosophy as a fact of law we can assume that:

-- It is Menard’s belief that his brand of “you ain’t the boss of me” anarcho-libertarianism is a fact of law.

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-- He dearly wishes it was and pretends that if he keeps saying it over and over it will be so.

He’s badly informed, or delusional . . .or both.
 
ComfySlippers said:
:jaw-dropp

Awesome link. Has a picture of Hitler :rolleyes: followed by this:



It advertises emergency seeds too :D

The paranoia is strong in this drug-addled one.
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I wonder if Rob agrees with this:

The real question here is one of principle, moral compass, and Constitutionality (a document which is a reflection of eternal natural law).

 
FreemanMenard said:
But, the government is composed of people, who have no special right to govern another without the consent of the governed. They govern the country. I am not `the country`. Funny how these same people, do not claim the right to govern me without my consent, isn`t it? Maybe they should talk to you and you can simply tell them they have the right to govern their fellow man without consent. :rolleyes:
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Oh please Menard, you know from your own experience that you are subject to the rule of law, whether you consent to be governed or not.

A couple of nanny state social workers take Elizabeth Anne Elaine, who you say is your child, out of your custody and you comply like an obedient citizen, even appealing for relief to the same authorities you say have no hold over you.

A mere airline ticket agent won’t let you on a flight because you don’t have government I.D. and despite your threats there wasn’t one thing you could do about the rule. Like a good little slave boy you didn’t get on the plane.

The BC courts tell you to stop clogging their benches with your filings and you dutifully comply.

The Vancouver police impound a car out from under you and a freeman buddy and you can’t do anything about it but stand aside while they haul the vehicle away. A lot of good you are, Bobby Boy!

I offer to pay your way to Louisville for a debate and knowing you can’t cross the boarder without submitting to U.S. immigration and customs rules you dutifully obey U.S. law and turn down the challenge.

It seems to me that governments push you around. . . .and you do absolutely nothing about it.
 
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arayder said:
Oh please Menard, you know from your own experience that you are subject to the rule of law, whether you consent to be governed or not.

A couple of nanny state social workers take Elizabeth Anne Elaine, who you say is your child, out of your custody and you comply like an obedient citizen, even appealing for relief to the same authorities you say have no hold over you.

A mere airline ticket agent won’t let you on a flight because you don’t have government I.D. and despite your threats there wasn’t one thing you could do about the rule. Like a good little slave boy you didn’t get on the plane.

The BC courts tell you to stop clogging their benches with your filings and you dutifully comply.

The Vancouver police impound a car out from under you and a freeman buddy and you can’t do anything about it but stand aside while they haul the vehicle away. A lot of good you are, Bobby Boy!

I offer to pay your way to Louisville for a debate and knowing you can’t cross the boarder without submitting to U.S. immigration and customs rules you dutifully obey U.S. law and turn down the challenge.

It seems to me that governments push you around. . . .and you do absolutely nothing about it.
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Is obeying the law the same as being pushed around by the government?
 
Rob consents to any government legislation that he cant get away with ignoring, he has admitted that fact before.
Do you remember his quote?
If I engage in governable actions then I consent to be governed.
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As for this
Is obeying the law the same as being pushed around by the government?
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You will have to establish what 'law' is first, Rob believes its something totally different than everyone else.
 
Menard why do you imply that something a foreign leader says about his countrys laws applies to your ideas? You are Canadian and Obama is not, so even if your freeman ideas where true in the US. That would not mean it is in Canada.
 
Can we get rob to talk about what is happening with his case against the airline, he seems to have stopped talking about it...

Rob?
 
mushy said:
Can we get rob to talk about what is happening with his case against the airline, he seems to have stopped talking about it...

Rob?
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What is that all about? Did he refuse to consent to pay for a ticket before he tried to board the airplane or did he try to fly to another country without a passport?
 
I took a quick glance. The pompous tone of his opening post is hilarious. How stupid do you have to be to try and fly to another country without showing your passport? Freemen, more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
 
FreemanMenard said:
People call Freemen `Freeloaders`because we apparently do not pull our weight, and do what we are told, pay what we are told, think what we are told, without question like they do. However this world of ours is a function of all of us doing or not doing. It is a function of us following or not following our own conscience. It is a function of us standing with courage or bending to the will of others for convenience. The true freeloaders, are actually the ones who do not stand for their beliefs, but simply go along with others for fear of being ridiculed, mocked or hated. The true freeloader is the one who rejects their own conscience.
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You know, there are some of us that have the silly idea that when we borrow money and agree to pay it back, that we have an obligation to actually pay it back. Some of us, while we may not always like paying taxes, or some of the ways that the government spends our money, think that, on balance, funding the government is better than not funding it. Some of us are even so foolish as to work for a living even though we'd really rather go fishing or play golf.

Then there are those who never got past the emotional age of 12, who think it is grossly unfair that sometimes we have to do things that aren't fun, like get a job, pay taxes, and pay for the stuff we buy, and think they can get out of those obligations by saying a few magic word.
 
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dafydd said:
I took a quick glance. The pompous tone of his opening post is hilarious. How stupid do you have to be to try and fly to another country without showing your passport? Freemen, more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
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Our subject thinks a self aggrandizing lie believed is better than the truth.

Menard and the poor suckers he attracts make up a sort of symbiotic relationship. The suckers he counts as his clients want desperately to believe that there is a quick and easy way to success and riches. For a fee Menard provides a story about how to get there.

There’s a long trail of jailed, fined and otherwise ruined wannabe freemen in Menard’s wake. Consistent with his irresponsible personal code our subject has never accepted responsibility for sending these poor folks to ruin.
 
dafydd said:
I took a quick glance. The pompous tone of his opening post is hilarious. How stupid do you have to be to try and fly to another country without showing your passport? Freemen, more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
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Wow,that requires a truly remarkable level of stupidity.
 
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