Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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So its been 18 months and it would appear that we are never going to get any evidence of FMOL working, I have sourced an alternative tactic to use in court which I believe would be just as effective.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/03d514a5fd/faking-a-heart-attack-in-court-from-that-happened

:D

It got me wondering if this article have been brought here before. :D
http://www.cracked.com/article_17470_the-7-most-baffling-criminal-defenses-that-sort-worked.html
 
The fmol defence wouldn't look out of place among that lot so may be there is a chance of it working yet.
Maybe not for the reasons they would like though as they are more likely to get off as a result of being declared unfit to stand trial and sectioned.
 
By your silence I take we are now in agreement.
No one here can govern me without my consent.
Right?
No one here may empower another as their agent or representative to do that which they cannot do themselves.
Right?

Or is there someone here who wants to claim I personally have the right to govern THEM without their consent?

To argue AGAINST my position is to argue FOR me being able to govern YOU personally or by representation without YOUR consent.

Who here wishes to argue THAT?

You like that word, right, but i have a better one for you, ability.

In debate world, the right to govern is the only important thing, in the real world the ability to govern is the only important thing.

And this has no inherent good or evil to it, i can be governed by a sociopath with a machete sans any consent of my own, or i can be governed by a group of elected officials elected by other citizens of my country.

But it all boils down to how can make me do what they want me to do, and how they can enforce me to do what they want me to do. The most perfect government in the world would mean nothing if they have no ability to enforce their power.

"Force of arms is not morally right!" you will cry, completely missing the point. Force of arms is not always right, true, but myself, and the vast majority of the other citizens of Canada, agree that this system is fair, helpful, and generally a good force in the lives and well being of canadians, as much as is possible within a system, that by virtue of being comprised of people, with the inherent flaws people have, will not be perfect.

You simply do not have the ability to enforce what you believe to be the law rob. You have neither the force of arms, nor the will of the people, beyond some poor folks searching for a cause you have managed to convince. You are not just against the government, but your against the millions of regular folks, who hear your schtick and respond with an eye roll and a hearty laugh. The millions who understand that implementing a class based system such as yours would do nothing but harm a great, and prosperous country.

I , for one, would be disgusted to see a Canada that had 2 classes of people, those who pay, and those who use. And the vast majority of folks shown your ideas, feel the same way.

The impact of an idea can often be seen in how detractors react to it, a frightening idea, capable of causing change that the detractor would not want, is typically hidden, squirreled away, or ignored. And rob, whenever i can i introduce new folks to your ideas, there is nothing scary about them, there is nothing valuable about them, they are simply another in a long line of laughable garbage i like to share with folks to get a good giggle out of its inanity. And i don't give them my version of what you say, for all my ability to write , i could not do justice to your ideas myself, and the comedic tragedy that is the freeman ideology has much more impact when you realize that the person saying it, is actually , legitimately trying to convince people, whether for a con, or a misguided understanding of the law, it has a Rik Mayal level of absurdity, that the best jokes i could make about it, don't quite manage.
 
FreemanMenard said:
Which duties authorized by which Act do you think this refers to? What, all of them? A Notary can perform any duty authorized by any Act?

:jaw-dropp

IS that not what it says?

How do you read and interpret it? Now remember, read only the words that are there, and do not add any, ok?


FreemanMenard, your 'interpretation' of this is absolutely jaw-dropping. It demonstrates a non-existent knowledge of or grasp of statutory interpretation, and a non-existent knowledge of or grasp of law for that matter. One can only wonder how on earth someone could possibly actually believe that the section of the B.C. Notaries Act cited imbues notaries with all of the powers and duties ever enumerated to others in every single provincial and federal statute in the country. That is genuinely jaw-dropping.

What it actually means is that a Notary can perform duties/functions that a Notary is specifically entitled to perform under other statutes aside from the Notaries Act. It most assuredly does not mean that a Notary is imbued with all of the powers and duties ascribed to others (non-notaries) in every single provincial and federal statute in the country, and it most assuredly does not entitle a notary to perform any and all duties and functions of any and all other non-Notary persons that are enumerated in any and all other statutes.
 
FreemanMenard, your 'interpretation' of this is absolutely jaw-dropping. It demonstrates a non-existent knowledge of or grasp of statutory interpretation, and a non-existent knowledge of or grasp of law for that matter. One can only wonder how on earth someone could possibly actually believe that the section of the B.C. Notaries Act cited imbues notaries with all of the powers and duties ever enumerated to others in every single provincial and federal statute in the country. That is genuinely jaw-dropping.

What it actually means is that a Notary can perform duties/functions that a Notary is specifically entitled to perform under other statutes aside from the Notaries Act. It most assuredly does not mean that a Notary is imbued with all of the powers and duties ascribed to others (non-notaries) in every single provincial and federal statute in the country, and it most assuredly does not entitle a notary to perform any and all duties and functions of any and all other non-Notary persons that are enumerated in any and all other statutes.

Well off course it doesn't. But it makes a great filter. If you can get someone to agree with an interpretation like Menard's, you have a better-than-average chance of getting him or her to pay you for stupid advice.
 
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What it actually means is that a Notary can perform duties/functions that a Notary is specifically entitled to perform under other statutes aside from the Notaries Act. It most assuredly does not mean that a Notary is imbued with all of the powers and duties ascribed to others (non-notaries) in every single provincial and federal statute in the country, and it most assuredly does not entitle a notary to perform any and all duties and functions of any and all other non-Notary persons that are enumerated in any and all other statutes.


The point of this language is to avoid giving the impression that the Act supersedes any other legislation or regulations covering notaries, is it not?
 
The point of this language is to avoid giving the impression that the Act supersedes any other legislation or regulations covering notaries, is it not?



It also means they can amend or enact other acts to refer to notaries, and giving them powers, without also having to amend the Notary Act at the same time. Any time you have to amend an act, it increases the workload of the legislature, and opens up the possibility that mistakes might be made that have other unintended impacts. This is of particular importance in Canada, where many acts must also be passed in both English and French, and translation mistakes can have major impacts*. Including that line in the Notaries Act reduces these problems.




*That has happened at least once involving the Patent Act and Rules, which I'm familiar with. A case hinged on slightly different wordings between the English and French versions, and we ended up having to do things differently from what was intended, because the French version was written more broadly. Hilarity ensued.
 
I have to laugh. This is the kind of unsupported speculation many here normally deride and use to justify claiming people are paranoid and delusional.
 
I have to laugh. This is the kind of unsupported speculation many here normally deride and use to justify claiming people are paranoid and delusional.

When someone exhibits paranoia and describes what normal people recognize as delusions, what else would you have us call it?
 
When someone exhibits paranoia and describes what normal people recognize as delusions, what else would you have us call it?

And, since Hans and JB are doing the EXACT SAME THING, you label them as paranoid and delusional. I guess that is fair. JB 'senses' that our website is going underground but no one questions what 'senses' he is using. Can others say they 'sense' something is about to happen, and you all will accept those as proof or evidence?

Move along folks, no bias to see here....

:D
 
I sense the maintenance ,(the dates given on the frontpage are incorrect- apparently it will only be down a matter of days), is to remove all that pesky evidence that FOTL-Waffle is donkey crap.

I sense also that gurus who promote FOTL-Waffle are conmen.
 
And, since Hans and JB are doing the EXACT SAME THING, you label them as paranoid and delusional. I guess that is fair. JB 'senses' that our website is going underground but no one questions what 'senses' he is using. Can others say they 'sense' something is about to happen, and you all will accept those as proof or evidence?

Move along folks, no bias to see here....

:D

Still no evidence to support your claims? Well no, didn't think so. We were speculating on possible motives behind the status of your website. I can prove we are not paranoid and delusional by stating the obvious - we don't believe in your fmolt waffle, ergo we are not delusional and certainly not paranoid.
 
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