Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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Does any one of then support your claim?

Bearing in mind the burden of proof lies with you and that you have spent thousands of hours researching and studying the law I would have thought that finding a case that backed your position would have been something of a priority.
Obviously not.

Isn't it absolutely shocking that someone who sells legal advice on a point of law has never actually researched that point of law? Doesn't it boggle your mind that someone who puts himself forward as knowledgeable on that law, to the point of actually charging people to hear him speak, has precisely no knowledge of the topic? Wouldn't it behoove someone with a contrary opinion on a point of law to at least know what it is they are contradicting?

Standards seem rather low in FOTL-land.

When crafting my legal argument in response to opposing counsel in my case, I think I'll stick to the law instead of the bizarre, unsupported claims of fringe gurus.
 
Isn't it absolutely shocking that someone who sells legal advice on a point of law has never actually researched that point of law? Doesn't it boggle your mind that someone who puts himself forward as knowledgeable on that law, to the point of actually charging people to hear him speak, has precisely no knowledge of the topic? Wouldn't it behoove someone with a contrary opinion on a point of law to at least know what it is they are contradicting?
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Robs response to every single question posed to him can be summarised into one single line......

"its because I say so" ad infinitum.

Look past all the diversions and rhetoric and thats all you have left.
 
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Sovereign-Washington-group-draws-federal-2230474.php


County Rangers around the country have sent threatening letters to legitimate law officers and elected officials, and filed frivolous complaints with police departments, the courts and taxing authorities. They carry badges identifying them as “peace officers,” and often use hand-made license plates and placards identifying them as law enforcement.


Anti-tax claims – often couched in nonsense legal arguments – resonate with people looking to make a quick buck, the Southern Poverty Law Center spokesman said.

“The sovereign citizen movement basically promises their followers that they’ll be millionaires,” Potok said. “There’s a fair amount of good old fashioned greed in there.”
 
Time to repost this before it gets completely buried.

You have ignored all my previous posts (despite the fact I am one of the few answering your questions and not interested in insults) and likely will ignore this one as well.

Here are some court rulings where a person used your argument (that the government has no right to govern without their individual consent) and failed. Since you have asked so many times I assume you are unfamiliar with these rulings so I will link to hte case and post the relevant passages:


R. v. Jennings, 2007 ABCA 45 (CanLII)

http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abca/doc/2007/2007abca45/2007abca45.html

6] The applicant submits that the jurisdiction of the Court or the applicability of statutes such as the Traffic Safety Act is based on individual consent, and that consequently the courts below lacked the ability to hear this matter or convict him. In my view, those arguments are without merit and fail to raise a question of law of public importance.

This decision alone owuld certainly give reason to conclude that individual consent to be governed by statutes is not required in Canada according to the de facto courts. This is sufficient and convincing, but there are lots of other cases where people have succesfully been "governed" by statute law through the courts without their consent:



Kanwar v. Kanwar, 2010 BCCA 407 (CanLII)

http://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcca/doc/2010/2010bcca407/2010bcca407.html

[33] Mr. Kanwar argued that the matter is one of settled law in India, and without his written consent to being governed by Canadian law; the parties remain governed by Hindu law and the issues raised by Ms. Sukhija can only be resolved under the provisions of the laws of India. Ms. Sukhija argued that there are no such legal restrictions.

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[43] Although both parties and the child were born in India, all applied for and received landed immigrant status in Canada, and as such, are subject to Canadian law.

R. v. Klundert, 2008 ONCA 767 (CanLII)

http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onca/doc/2008/2008onca767/2008onca767.html

[20] More important, the essence of his argument is that ‘the Act does not apply to me because I choose to have it not apply to me’. Contrary to what Mr. Christie says, this is a jurisdictional argument (and one which is void of merit) that leads to a mistake of law which does not afford a defence. This court has already said in Klundert No. 1 – this kind of mistake of law is irrelevant to the fault requirement of the charge of tax evasion.

If you are still interested I will post links to other such cases:

http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2009/2009canlii9368/2009canlii9368.html

http://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/2000/2000bcsc190/2000bcsc190.html

I don't want to go too far with this at this point, because you may not respond at all, and if you do there is already enough to respond to in the first case posted.
 
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Rob's resurfaced on Ickes now, no doubt hoping that he can recruit some more unthinking disciples.

Yes.

Start of Thread

Rob joins in and, as usual, displays his appalling lack of English comprehension yet again. Here.

Quite a funny thread actually.
"tk421" was funny, but "britishnick" 's comments will truly make your brain vomit and wonder how the heck the human race made it thus far...

Post74 on page8 by firstworldproblems in response to one of britishnicks astoundingly stupid posts is hilarious.
 
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Yep, he's gearing up to make a pillock of himself once more on Ickes. Stay tuned as there could be some cracking examples of Rob "doing a Menard" on that thread.
 
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At least he's consistent - wrong, but he's consistent.

As a matter of pure speculation, I wonder if Mr. Menard realizes that his analogy for society is flawed as a real society consists of more than 2 people....
 


From that thread:
Imagine two people, living peacefully side by side. One day one of them comes to the other, and tells him that an imaginary entity has granted him power, and he commands the second guy to give him half his produce, and stop growing a certain plant, which the first guy does not like, though the second guy does.


Sounds as if the first guy has invented religion.
 
Imagine two people, living peacefully side by side. One day one of them comes to the other, and tells him that an imaginary entity has granted him power, and he commands the second guy to give him half his produce, and stop growing a certain plant, which the first guy does not like, though the second guy does.
Certain plant?
The familiar weed reference, the staple of the freeman diet.

As an aside what gives the second guy the right to grow a plant if the first guy doesn't like it?
 
Imagine two people, living peacefully side by side. One day one of them comes to the other, and tells him that an imaginary entity has granted him power, and he commands the second guy to give him half his produce, and stop growing a certain plant, which the first guy does not like, though the second guy does.
In a small cluster of mud huts, maybe. OTOH, in an actual civilization there are many thousands (millions) voting together what rules they wish to abide by. A majority has voted against you growing that plant. Stop growing it or face the punishment your fellow citizens authorized. A majority has voted to collect income to spend on group projects. Stop paying your share but still use the society's products makes you a thief.

FMOTL are nothing but thieves and leaches wanting something for nothing from those who actually contribute to society.

If you don't like it, leave. No one is stopping you.

At least he's consistent - wrong, but he's consistent.

As a matter of pure speculation, I wonder if Mr. Menard realizes that his analogy for society is flawed as a real society consists of more than 2 people....
FMOTL feel their needs, as individuals, far outweighs those of 330 million others.
 
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