Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

[FreemanMenard]

not quite civil disobeyance with success or Ghandi leading the masses to defy the British salt tax.

So Ghandi NEVER went to jail?
Or did he?

Would you be claiming (back when he was in jail) that his being jailed was evidence of him failing? That he was wrong at law?

Or was it merely one of the things he had to go through to eventually find success and prove it was the British who were wrong the whole time, even though they had the bigger sticks?

FREEMEN GOT NATIONAL EXPOSURE!
Care to deny THAT?

Thought not....

 

[FreemanMenard]

Sure, they spoke of The Movement but it was hardly a glowing endorsement. Sometimes, there *is* such a thing as bad publicity.

I did not expect a glowing endorsement. I would have been shocked had they given one. As it is, they did pretty much exactly what I thought they would and they 'played right into my hand'.

Bad what?

 

[FreemanMenard]

Menard, the wide-eyed look of surprise on your face when Arsenault caught you dead to rights in a pack of lies was a classic. One has to think that the look on your face was exactly the one you produced in childhood when adults caught you in your Mini-Menard tall tales.

Consistent with the manipulations of a narcissist the claimed success of your methods and the assertion of a tremendous reception of freemanism based on the CBC piece rely solely on your word.

The only problem is your word is no good.

Your awkward plagiary of Larken Rose, your falsification of a McCann Fitzgerald memo, your vacillating stories about Lance Thatcher and a raft of stories to numerous to mention belie your credibility.

Hells bells, son, you even wear a little fez/beanie to hide your balding head and over sized tunics to hide your big ole beer belly.

You are as phony as a three dollar bill.

The only thing keeping you going is the sad fact that there is a wannabe freeman sucker born every minute.

So a picture of me without my hat, with a fair head of hair, that pretty much undermines ALL your assumptions, eh?

So how goes your battle to destroy me? Still struggling are you?

Hows your friend you abandoned and failed to help doing?

 

[ComfySlippers]

So Ghandi NEVER went to jail?
Or did he?

Would you be claiming (back when he was in jail) that his being jailed was evidence of him failing? That he was wrong at law?

Or was it merely one of the things he had to go through to eventually find success and prove it was the British who were wrong the whole time, even though they had the bigger sticks?

FREEMEN GOT NATIONAL EXPOSURE!
Care to deny THAT?

Thought not....

You're comparing your FOTL-Waffle to Ghandi?

Rob, get help.

Did you crusade for the release of Lance Thatcher's imprisonment after you sold him pretend legal advice for $800?

....Or did you simply say "Nothing to do with me, was the Judges fault" ?

ETA:

So how goes your battle to destroy me? Still struggling are you?

You are doing a very good job of that yourself.

 

[FreemanMenard]

You're comparing your FOTL-Waffle to Ghandi?

Rob, get help.

Did you crusade for the release of Lance Thatcher's imprisonment after you sold him pretend legal advice for $800?

....Or did you simply say "Nothing to do with me, was the Judges fault" ?

ETA:

You are doing a very good job of that yourself.

No. I asked a question. DID Ghandi ever go to jail or not? Simple question. You will answer it or seek to avoid doing so by attacking me, maybe by claiming I an 'comparing myself to Ghandi'. Did he go to jail or not? Was him going to jail proof that he failed? Simple yes or no questions, which if you are fearful of the answers will cause you to say something along the lines of :

You're comparing your FOTL-Waffle to Ghandi?

Here is the question you want to avoid and will attack me with your presumed beliefs about how I treated Lance.

DID GHANDI GO TO JAIL?

Did he fail?

You point to Freemen in jail and use that as 'evidence' that they are wrong. That their point is 'wrong'.

I point out a historical hero had to go to jail to prove his point. His point was eventually proved.

Is going to jail in itself therefore evidence of being wring? Or not?

(this is where you will seek once again to avoid the question and the truth by claiming I seek to compare myself to Ghandi, when ALL I am doing is asking if in the history of man there has been others who were sent to jail and then later proved to be not so wrong.

Care to answer or will you seek to attack me again for comparing myself to Ghandi, something I have not done.

Either he went to jail or he did not.

DID HE?

Lets start there... or you can continue playing your game of claiming I am comparing myself to him by simply asking that question...

Incidentally, do you agree the Freeman Movement was given NATIONAL exposure, or not?

 

[FreemanMenard]

QUESTIONS:
Did Ghandi go to jail or not?

Did him going to jail mean he failed?

Is going to jail evidence of failure?

Did the Freeman movement get national exposure?

Simple questions, for simple people.

Anyone care to answer?

 

[D'rok]

The con man is right. Although the vast majority of Canadians can see right through him, this doesn't really matter. The con man isn't attempting to win the hearts and minds of the general public; he's attempting to make some sales in the lunatic fringe. I think the exposure on national television will do this. It is quite likely that he will make at least a little bit more money because of this.

Maybe the the next travelling sideshow can be somewhere other than Wilfrid, ON. Maybe it can even be somewhere with residents.

 

[FreemanMenard]

The con man is right. Although the vast majority of Canadians can see right through him, this doesn't really matter. The con man isn't attempting to win the hearts and minds of the general public; he's attempting to make some sales in the lunatic fringe. I think the exposure on national television will do this. It is quite likely that he will make at least a little bit more money because of this.

Maybe the the next travelling sideshow can be somewhere other than Wilfrid, ON. Maybe it can even be somewhere with residents.

So instead of answering the question, you attack me and call me a conman.

Who is the deceiver?

Gonna answer the questions or not?

I bet not....

 

[FreemanMenard]

QUESTIONS:
Did Ghandi go to jail or not?

Did him going to jail mean he failed?

Is going to jail evidence of failure?

Did the Freeman movement get national exposure?

Simple questions, for simple people.

Anyone care to answer?

 

[D'rok]

So instead of answering the question, you attack me and call me a conman.

Who is the deceiver?

Gonna answer the questions or not?

I bet not....

You're setting the bar pretty low for "winning" there Charlie. They killed Jesus, and look who got the last laugh there?

I think you should compare yourself to Jesus rather than Gandhi.

Actually, let's be fair. You haven't gone to jail because you don't actually practice what you preach. You rely on patsies. So it's the patsies who are like Gandhi.

Will the first roadside martyr who opens fire on the cops be like Jesus and therefore the ultimate FOTL win?

 

[FreemanMenard]

You're setting the bar pretty low for "winning" there Charlie. They killed Jesus, and look who got the last laugh there?

I think you should compare yourself to Jesus rather than Gandhi.

Actually, let's be fair. You haven't gone to jail because you don't actually practice what you preach. You rely on patsies. So it's the patsies who are like Gandhi.

Will the first roadside martyr who opens fire on the cops be like Jesus and therefore the ultimate FOTL win?

So you avoid the questions.....
What a surprise...

I have been jailed over a dozen times for doing what I do... they don't try to jail me anymore.

Lets be really fair.... answer the questions.

QUESTIONS:
Did Ghandi go to jail or not?

Did him going to jail mean he failed?

Is going to jail evidence of failure?

Did the Freeman movement get national exposure?

Simple questions, for simple people.

Anyone care to answer?

 

[TSR]

Ghandi broke the law, knowing full well it applied to him and what the consequences were.

FotL break the law because you tell them it doesn't apply to them, and lie that there will be no consequences unless they consent.

Do you see the difference?

 

[FreemanMenard]

Ghandi broke the law, knowing full well it applied to him and what the consequences were.

FotL break the law because you tell them it doesn't apply to them, and lie that there will be no consequences.

Do you see the difference?

No one does something because I 'tell them to'.
They do so because they have looked into their own hearts, and acted upon what they see there.

DO YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE?

Now....

Care to answer the questiosn I posed, or will you seek to avoid them some more?

Here they are:

QUESTIONS:
Did Ghandi go to jail or not?

Did him going to jail mean he failed?

Is going to jail evidence of failure?

Did the Freeman movement get national exposure?

Simple questions, for simple people.

Anyone care to answer?

 

[D'rok]

I have been jailed over a dozen times for doing what I do... they don't try to jail me anymore.

You don't say?

This is great. You must have tons of evidence for this claim. What did you do to land in jail? What were the charges? You must have some record of all of this. Were you convicted of something? Or are you just talking about the drunk tank or something similar?

Details, please.

 

[D'rok]

Also, if you were charged with something, did you use an FOTL defence to beat the charges? How did that work? There must be transcripts of this.

Enquiring minds want to know.

 

[D'rok]

Ah well...the boss (Mrs. D'rok) calls. I'll just have to live in suspense.

 

[TSR]

No one does something because I 'tell them to'.
They do so because they have looked into their own hearts, and acted upon what they see there.

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So, you charge $800 for a DVD that says "look into your own heart, and act on what's there (and never mind the law)"?
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QUESTIONS:
Did Ghandi go to jail or not?

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Several times.
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Did him going to jail mean he failed?

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No because going to jail and and thereby becoming a prisoner of conscious was his goal.

Again, you tell people that they don't have to abide by laws because they do not apply to them.

Ghandi knew better, and went gladly. He did *not* say "I don't consent". He did not make up mumbo jumbo to justify his violation of that law. I don't even recal a single time that he plead anything but "guilty".

Do you see the difference?
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Is going to jail evidence of failure?

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As above.
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Did the Freeman movement get national exposure?

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Yes, you were exposed as a wack job.

Now, I've answered your questions, you answer mine: Ghandi did what he did despite the fact that he knew the law applied to him and so there would be consequences.

You claim the law does not apply to you in the first place. But are too timid to lead a demonstration of, let's say, a motorcade of transports which are unregistered, in which you travel unlicensed and without insurance, which you have spent time telling the press is going to happen at thus and such a time in thus and such a place.

Ghandi, you are not.

DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
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[tsig]

So Ghandi NEVER went to jail?
Or did he?

Would you be claiming (back when he was in jail) that his being jailed was evidence of him failing? That he was wrong at law?

Or was it merely one of the things he had to go through to eventually find success and prove it was the British who were wrong the whole time, even though they had the bigger sticks?

FREEMEN GOT NATIONAL EXPOSURE!
Care to deny THAT?

Thought not....

You're bragging about being exposed in public?

 

[solzhenitsyn]

QUESTIONS:
Did Ghandi go to jail or not?

Yes, Gandhi went to prison for two years for his political actions and beliefs. Have you been to prison for your's?

Did him going to jail mean he failed?

No, but then again, he wasn't given ridiculously bad advice that he could just withdraw consent from British colonialism and thus be immune from the authority of the British Raj.

Is going to jail evidence of failure?

When someone has explicitly told you that you can't go to jail if you say the magic words, then yes, it is devastating evidence of failure.

Did the Freeman movement get national exposure?

Yes, it did. In fact, I laughed about the Freeman movement with at least a dozen people around coffee this morning (people who had never heard of it before.)

Simple questions, for simple people.

Anyone care to answer?

 

[tsig]

So you avoid the questions.....
What a surprise...

I have been jailed over a dozen times for doing what I do... they don't try to jail me anymore.

Lets be really fair.... answer the questions.

QUESTIONS:
Did Ghandi go to jail or not?

Did him going to jail mean he failed?

Is going to jail evidence of failure?

Did the Freeman movement get national exposure?

Simple questions, for simple people.

Anyone care to answer?

Have you gone to jail?