Right Wing hatefest!

[BPSCG]

Originally posted by BPSCG
So why didn't Rachel Corrie go to North Korea to protest the truly horrifying injustice there, instead of to Israel? She could have gotten killed in NK just as easily.

If you are equating Israel to NK, fine. I'll take it as a given from now on.

You're being disingenuous; you know damned well I wasn't making that equation - though I'd be interested to know if you think Israel is freer than North Korea.*

Rachel Corrie died protesting supposed injustices perpetrated by Israel against terrorists.

Why didn't she die protesting North Korea's real injustices against its own innocent people?

This is off-topic for this very amusing thread.** Feel free to move it to another thread. I'll meet you there.

* I expect the answer to that question right after you answer my other two questions that you've been dodging, to wit:
1) How should Saddam Hussein been removed from power and replaced? and,
2) Should we have invaded North Korea instead of Iraq?

** I vote for neo-solipsistic-whoosis whatever party...

 

[BPSCG]

Howard Dean: "I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for..." January 29, 2005

I know, I know, this is off-topic; we're talking about right wing hatefest here.

 

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Walter Cronkite suggesting the videotape of Osama Bin Laden released just before the election was set up by Karl Rove.

What Really Happened

CRONKITE: What we just heard. So now the question is basically right now, how will this affect the election? And I have a feeling that it could tilt the election a bit. In fact, I'm a little inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing. The advantage to the Republican side is to get rid of, as a principal subject of the campaigns right now, get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa explosive dump. Right now, that, the last couple of days, has, I think, upset the Republican campaign.

Yep, Walter did suggest it as you say. But to equate Cronkite, especially regarding the context in which this was said, with Limbaugh or Moore, or to include him in the a**hole club as the OP describes it, is laughable

 

[Kevin_Lowe]

Why didn't she die protesting North Korea's real injustices against its own innocent people?

Because it doesn't say anywhere that you have to fight the biggest evil you know about. You can also fight lesser evils. (As you perceive them, of course).

I expect the answer to that question right after you answer my other two questions that you've been dodging, to wit:
1) How should Saddam Hussein been removed from power and replaced?

This is akin to asking how Stalin should have turned the USSR into a unified and industrialised nation, and implying that you can't criticise Stalin unless you have a sound and detailed answer to that question.

2) Should we have invaded North Korea instead of Iraq?

It depends whether or not you think US actions should be consistent with US rhetoric. Pointing out inconsistencies, if nothing else, puts those who parrot the rhetoric in a difficult position and might even (conceivably) force them to think a bit.

 

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Howard Dean: "I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for..." January 29, 2005

I know, I know, this is off-topic; we're talking about right wing hatefest here.

Not off-topic at all. The title refers just to the example link I've cited.

Bring on the hate.

But only if the only hate you're bringing personally is against the type of speech these examples illuminate.

 

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Susan Sarandon: "The United States is a land that has raped every area of the world."

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Actually, that one's not quite up to the standards of the other ones.

It's not calling anyone nazis or traitors. In fact, it's not even talking about republicans.

Obviously she's speaking metaphorically, since a land can't literally rape areas. So she's talking about the projection of american force and influence. That's her opinion. I might disagree, but it's her opinion.


It's colorful language, but I can't say that it's hate.

 

[BPSCG]

Because it doesn't say anywhere that you have to fight the biggest evil you know about. You can also fight lesser evils. (As you perceive them, of course).

Unless you're George Bush contemplating fighting Iraq, of course.

This is akin to asking how Stalin should have turned the USSR into a unified and industrialised nation, and implying that you can't criticise Stalin unless you have a sound and detailed answer to that question.

No it isn't. See below.

It depends whether or not you think US actions should be consistent with US rhetoric. Pointing out inconsistencies, if nothing else, puts those who parrot the rhetoric in a difficult position and might even (conceivably) force them to think a bit.

Kevin, those are also non-answers, but I'd like you to elaborate, because even though I rarely agree with what you have to say, you strike me as being more thoughtful and reasoned than AUP, The Fool, and demon. Since it's off-topic here, I'm going to start a thread and invite you (and anyone else who cares to partake) to join in.

 

[CapelDodger]

So why didn't Rachel Corrie go to North Korea to protest the truly horrifying injustice there, instead of to Israel? She could have gotten killed in NK just as easily.

If Israeli rhetoric is to be believed, she shouldn't have been killed by Israelis. It's also very difficult to get into North Korea, so not going there is hardly a sign of acquiescence in the regime. (Not everybody can get into Israel either, of course, let alone into the occupied territories. Family-tree notwithstanding. At least Corrie managed that.)