Rick Santorum opposes public schooling

MattusMaximus said:
Yet he sent his own kids to a public school at taxpayer expense. Funny that :rolleyes:
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Um... do you know of a way to send one's children to public school NOT at taxpayer expense?

But if he's a taxpayer, then what's the problem? The fact that he's taking advantage of a system he's forced to pay for, even though he'd prefer to not pay for it and not have it? That's not hypocrisy either. I'd be happy to forgo social security if I was allowed to keep that money to do with as I choose, but since I can't, I damned well am going to take my social security payments (if it's still around).

And what's the point in listing the cost of their education? Is it supposed to prove he's a mooch? Because it doesn't, since he's probably paid taxes to support that schooling. How do his tax payments compare to their education? That seems curiously absent, both from the article and from the conversation here.
 
If homeschooling is so great, according to Santorum, then why didn't he just homeschool his kids the entire time, Zig?
 
MattusMaximus said:
The real issue, to me, isn't that he's "opposed to public education"; it's that he thought it was okay for taxpayers to send HIS kids to school (to the tune of $38,000 per year), but apparently not for everyone else's kids. At least, that's the way his comments come off to me.
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Could anyone send their children to this cyber school? Also at about 8000 per child theoretically the district probably saves money when kids go. At least it costs a lot more per child where I live.
 
MattusMaximus said:
It means that when he wanted/needed it, he didn't have any problem with the taxpayer-funded, evil, Satanic, socialistic public schools teaching HIS kids (to the tune of $38,000 per year); yet now, in an election year, suddenly the U.S. public education system is "a thing of the past."

Santorum is a hypocritical turd. If he wants to avoid this charge, he should pay back every nickel, with interest.
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Yeah, he actually claimed that Satan had targeted America and institutions of higher learning. So embarrassing. Then there was his wife's law suit where they asked for more than Santorum was trying to cap lawsuits.

At the time, Democrat James Carville called Santorum “a world class hypocrite” because while his wife sued for $500,000, he had co-sponsored a bill limiting medical malpractice lawsuits to $250,000 in non-economic damages.
 
eeyore1954 said:
Could anyone send their children to this cyber school? Also at about 8000 per child theoretically the district probably saves money when kids go. At least it costs a lot more per child where I live.
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Aaaaand you continue to ignore my main criticism of Santorum. If homeschooling is so damned great compared to public schools, why did Santorum send his own kids to public school at taxpayer expense?

Anyone?
 
MattusMaximus said:
If homeschooling is so great, according to Santorum, then why didn't he just homeschool his kids the entire time, Zig?
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That argument is completely unconnected to the cost issue. Can I take it that you are now abandoning that argument?

As for why he didn't, I don't know, go ask him. Maybe he likes homeschooling better (and all of his children have been homeschooled), but wasn't able to during that particular period. Beats me.
 
Ziggurat said:
That argument is completely unconnected to the cost issue. Can I take it that you are now abandoning that argument?

As for why he didn't, I don't know, go ask him. Maybe he likes homeschooling better (and all of his children have been homeschooled), but wasn't able to during that particular period. Beats me.
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Or maybe he's a hypocritical bastard. Beats me.
 
MattusMaximus said:
Or maybe he's a hypocritical bastard. Beats me.
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Precisely: it beats you, but you've still made up your mind anyways. He's on the wrong side of the ideological divide, so of course he never gets any benefit of the doubt. You'd be betraying your tribe if you were to do that.
 
eeyore1954 said:
I am saying the op is wrong. Show me where Santorum "wants to get rid of public schools" as is quoted in the opening statement .
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"Santorum said the public education system was an artifact of the Industrial Revolution."

What does public education is an anachronism and artifact mean?
 
eeyore1954 said:
I am saying the op is wrong. Show me where Santorum "wants to get rid of public schools" as is quoted in the opening statement .
RandFan said:
"Santorum said the public education system was an artifact of the Industrial Revolution."

What does public education is an anachronism and artifact mean?
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He didn't say that "govt run school" is an artifact. He said "public education" is an artifact.
 
Ziggurat said:
Precisely: it beats you, but you've still made up your mind anyways. He's on the wrong side of the ideological divide, so of course he never gets any benefit of the doubt. You'd be betraying your tribe if you were to do that.
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Nope, it beats you, it beats me; we can't judge it one way or the other. Nope, not at all, no sirree. We're all just getting beat off here, Zig.

At least that way you can rationalize not holding Santorum to any kind of standard :rolleyes:
 
MattusMaximus said:
Aaaaand you continue to ignore my main criticism of Santorum. If homeschooling is so damned great compared to public schools, why did Santorum send his own kids to public school at taxpayer expense?

Anyone?
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Do you disagree that he did not say he wants to get rid of public schools. I was not making any judgement about whether he is right or wrong in other activities.

But in response to your question has he said he is against taxes especially local ones funding schools. I don't know but if he hasn't why was it wrong for him to use services provided by the district. As i said before it probably is cheaper for the district. Ignoring the idea of fixed costs.

Why would he try that option instead of homeschooling? I know very little about him but homeschooling is a tough task and you have to be sure you have the time, the demeanor and the ability.
 
eeyore1954 said:
Do you disagree that he did not say he wants to get rid of public schools. I was not making any judgement about whether he is right or wrong in other activities.
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No, that isn't my argument. Talk to Randfan about that one.

I just think Santorum's being a hypocrite.
 
RandFan said:
He didn't say that "govt run school" is an artifact. He said "public education" is an artifact.
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So that means he wants to get rid of public schools not fix what he perceives as maybe a broken system. Mainly I believe he wants more local control.
 
RandFan said:
Oh no kidding. It's piling up daily. He doesn't even know who the hell runs the schools.
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Yeah, that slipped by me. As Santorum is someone who wants to be at the top of the federal government, we might actually want someone who knows what the federal government does and doesn't do :rolleyes:
 
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eeyore1954 said:
So that means he wants to get rid of public schools not fix what he perceives as maybe a broken system. Mainly I believe he wants more local control.
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Please specify what this means. You do realize there are these things called local school boards (you know, the elected bodies from local communities who run the local districts?) here in the U.S., right?
 
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