Rethink your Trump hatred ?

[Minoosh]

I know right? It's almost like the media calling the travel ban Trump imposed a muslim ban. (for reactions/hits)

That's what Trump called it repeatedly, until he figured out that the language not would not pass Constitutional muster.

Really, is there any way you don't already know this?

I don't think he cared one way or another about banning Muslim travel; he just knew it would play with his base. So he took what he could get.

 

[Sideroxylon]

Yeah, lets inflate non related things to come across in a way they were never meant. (when i called the tests inaccurate based on the results... but please go on) My actual tested IQ in school was much lower at 136.

I think Trump is brash and narcissistic. He's not my first choice for someone Presidential. However, he's doing a great job.

No one gives a ****. Your arguments have to stand for themselves.

 

[River]

shame on the press calling a spade a spade.

Trump called it a "Muslim ban!" When it turned out you can't do that -- who knew? -- we got several iterations that ended up being the "travel ban," but still something his reactionary cult would accept as being as close to a Muslim ban that poor Trump could get.

Then I suppose you'll be able to prove that the travel ban does not allow any muslims into the country. Especially not from countries with the highest muslim populations correct?

 

[BobTheCoward]

Then I suppose you'll be able to prove that the travel ban does not allow any muslims into the country. Especially not from countries with the highest muslim populations correct?

A partial ban is still a ban.

 

[WilliamSeger]

Then I suppose you'll be able to prove that the travel ban does not allow any muslims into the country. Especially not from countries with the highest muslim populations correct?

Then I suppose you'll continue to try to find some argument you can win. You asked what damage Trump has done. It's a known fact that radical Islamists used Trump's "Muslim ban" rhetoric as proof that the West is at war with Islam. You sure that didn't cause any damage?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Then I suppose you'll be able to prove that the travel ban does not allow any muslims into the country. Especially not from countries with the highest muslim populations correct?

the original one, or the one that, after a few changes, got approved by the courts?

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Trump called it a "Muslim ban!" When it turned out you can't do that -- who knew? -- we got several iterations that ended up being the "travel ban," but still something his reactionary cult would accept as being as close to a Muslim ban that poor Trump could get.

Please post the exact quote where "Trump called it a Muslim ban."

 

[citizenzen]

I've stated multiple times my support for those issues.

My impression of democrats agenda may be different than their written agendas, but this seems about right.

* The democrat agenda since 2016 seems to be Hate Trump.
* Open the borders (or rather allow for iillegal immigrants to come, and not be prosecuted, catch and release programs)
* Higher taxes
* More regulations
* Taking funds and giving them to foreign entities in the name of "climate change" when none of those funds go to making a difference on it, and none of those funds are used in our country.
* Suppress or or eliminate 2nd amendment rights some)
* Calling all GOP members racist and sexist
* Calling GOP members Nazi and fascists
* Supporting actual fascists groups like Pantifa
* Letting men pee in the womens room
* Segregating school campuses and events.

Now of course I realize this is not an official stance by the DNC, but its a perceived one.

You can almost always expect a big, fat, straw man argument anytime someone tries to describe the opposition.

Your case is no different.

 

[River]

A partial ban is still a ban.

Then I suppose you'll continue to try to find some argument you can win. You asked what damage Trump has done. It's a known fact that radical Islamists used Trump's "Muslim ban" rhetoric as proof that the West is at war with Islam. You sure that didn't cause any damage?

Hmm.

The travel part of Trump’s order does target the same seven countries that were singled out with a law Obama signed in December 2015.

The Obama-signed law contains provisions that restrict travel to the United States for people who lived in or visited Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria since March 2011. They must have a visa to enter the United States; they can’t use what is known as the Visa Waiver Program, which allows 90-day U.S. visits to other foreign visitors.

The law was soon expanded by Obama’s Department of Homeland Security to cover Libya, Somalia, and Yemen. They were identified in the agency’s announcement as "countries of concern," a phrase used in the law.

 

[WilliamSeger]

Please post the exact quote where "Trump called it a Muslim ban."

Here's one: "I’m looking at it very strongly with Rudy Giuliani heading it. I’ve spoken to him a little while ago. We’re going to put together a group of five or six people. Very, very highly thought of people, and I think Rudy will head it up, and we’ll look at the Muslim ban or the ‘temporary ban’ as we call it … He will head it up and he’s agreed to do so."

It's just one of A Dozen Times Trump Equated his Travel Ban with a Muslim Ban.

 

[Belz...]

Here's one: "I’m looking at it very strongly with Rudy Giuliani heading it. I’ve spoken to him a little while ago. We’re going to put together a group of five or six people. Very, very highly thought of people, and I think Rudy will head it up, and we’ll look at the Muslim ban or the ‘temporary ban’ as we call it … He will head it up and he’s agreed to do so."

It's just one of A Dozen Times Trump Equated his Travel Ban with a Muslim Ban.

Oops. I don't know if Slings really didn't do that, or if you just called his bluff.

 

[beachnut]

Please post the exact quote where "Trump called it a Muslim ban."

lol - that was a good one, did you miss the liar in chief celebrate when the court up held his travel BAN? twitter! Oh, you have no clue who was Banned - that is funny. He wanted his travel BAN, he celebrates when he got it(albeit the same "ban" already in place, kind of), and you don't know who was banned.

@realDonaldTrump - The travel ban into the United States should be far larger, tougher and more specific-but stupidly, that would not be politically correct!

@realDonaldTrump - The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.

@realDonaldTrump - We need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the courts to give us back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!

@realDonaldTrump - Need the WALL, need the BAN!

oops, total shut down of muslim, Muslim Ban.

It was liar is chief's strategy to get the bigot vote, it worked. Like failed NAZIs, trumplethinskin plays on bigotry, racism, and hate.

 

[johnny karate]

I know right? It's almost like the media calling the travel ban Trump imposed a muslim ban. (for reactions/hits)

Please post the exact quote where "Trump called it a Muslim ban."

Here's one: "I’m looking at it very strongly with Rudy Giuliani heading it. I’ve spoken to him a little while ago. We’re going to put together a group of five or six people. Very, very highly thought of people, and I think Rudy will head it up, and we’ll look at the Muslim ban or the ‘temporary ban’ as we call it … He will head it up and he’s agreed to do so."

It's just one of A Dozen Times Trump Equated his Travel Ban with a Muslim Ban.

I’d like to thank River and Slings and Arrows for continuing the time-honored forum conservative tradition of being terrible at this.

 

[johnny karate]

I've stated multiple times my support for those issues.

My impression of democrats agenda may be different than their written agendas, but this seems about right.

* The democrat agenda since 2016 seems to be Hate Trump.
* Open the borders (or rather allow for iillegal immigrants to come, and not be prosecuted, catch and release programs)
* Higher taxes
* More regulations
* Taking funds and giving them to foreign entities in the name of "climate change" when none of those funds go to making a difference on it, and none of those funds are used in our country.
* Suppress or or eliminate 2nd amendment rights some)
* Calling all GOP members racist and sexist
* Calling GOP members Nazi and fascists
* Supporting actual fascists groups like Pantifa
* Letting men pee in the womens room
* Segregating school campuses and events.

Now of course I realize this is not an official stance by the DNC, but its a perceived one.

At about the halfway point reading this list, I was expecting the Pizzagate conspiracy theory to show up by the end, and was genuinely surprised when it didn’t.

 

[Elagabalus]

... It was liar is chief's strategy to get the bigot vote, it worked. Like failed NAZIs, trumplethinskin plays on bigotry, racism, and hate.

I love it!

 

[Elagabalus]

* Supporting actual fascists groups like Pantifa

Pantifa? Do they make Pantiraids?

 

[Minoosh]

I love it!

I'm not a big fan of silly nicknames but my suggestion at one point was Dishonest Don. I used it in a post today. It's not nearly as clever as some Trump nicknames but it kind of boils down to that in my view. I could take a jab at his orange skin color but I won't, I'm bigger than that.

I wonder if anyone ever consider a ban on Saudi Arabians. (I mean, letting them in the country, not outlawing them completely .) Since these are the guys who actually attacked us. And, let me add I am fairly nonpartisan on this; both Republicans and Democrats have been kissing Saudi Arabia's ass for decades.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

The courts dismissed the case:

http://openargs.com/wp-content/uploads/Nwanguma-v-Trump-district-court-decision.pdf

The reason being that after Trump called for beating people up, he added:

“Don’t hurt ’em. If I say ‘go get ’em,’ I get in trouble with the press . . . .”

supposedly, that made it alright.

That somehow cancelled out all the other things he said, including how he implied he would love to see them carried out on stretchers? Wow.

 

[Cabbage]

I've stated multiple times my support for those issues.

My impression of democrats agenda may be different than their written agendas, but this seems about right.

* The democrat agenda since 2016 seems to be Hate Trump.
* Open the borders (or rather allow for iillegal immigrants to come, and not be prosecuted, catch and release programs)
* Higher taxes
* More regulations
* Taking funds and giving them to foreign entities in the name of "climate change" when none of those funds go to making a difference on it, and none of those funds are used in our country.
* Suppress or or eliminate 2nd amendment rights some)
* Calling all GOP members racist and sexist
* Calling GOP members Nazi and fascists
* Supporting actual fascists groups like Pantifa
* Letting men pee in the womens room
* Segregating school campuses and events.

Now of course I realize this is not an official stance by the DNC, but its a perceived one.

Hmmm...Sounds like you get your impressions of the Democratic agenda from pure Republican propaganda.

Maybe you should try doing something about that...

...I mean, if you really wanna be an informed voter and all, instead of being some propagandist's Sucker.

 

[Cabbage]

Please post the exact quote where "Trump called it a Muslim ban."

Why is it always the conservatives themselves that are so ignorant of their leaders' policies and positions? LOL!