Request: CD and Structural Engineers who believe the CT?

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Argument with a workmate, so just wanted to check something.

Is it still just Mr Jowenko out of the entire world community of Structural Engineers and/or Demolition Contractors who believe the towers and WTC 7 were brought down by controlled demolition?

Thanks :)
 
Well I work in this very field, albeit as an architect, and the only other name that ever appeared was Charles Pegelow BUT he's avoided putting anything in writing in order that we can critically analyse it.
 
Argument with a workmate, so just wanted to check something.

Is it still just Mr Jowenko out of the entire world community of Structural Engineers and/or Demolition Contractors who believe the towers and WTC 7 were brought down by controlled demolition?

Thanks :)
Well, Jowenko said that WTC 1/2 was not controlled demolition.
He said WTC 7 was controlled demolition after looking at a video of a few seconds. He had no knowledge of the fires or the structural damage.
 
Actually, in that video, Jowenko says very clearly and in no uncertain terms that WTC1 and WTC2 were not controlled demolitions.

ETA: Firestone beat me to it.
 
CTers: "Experts? We don't need no stinking experts! It's obvious that they were taken down by CD and NOTHING any government shill expert can say or prove is going to change that!"
 
I have a question for The Architect and Anti-Sophist (who I believe is a structural engineer?).

I read a statement by an architect who claims the collapse of the towers was due to a design flaw. The design flaw concerns the visoelastic dampening system used it the wtc.

Any validity to this?

Here's the link.

http://www.designcommunity.com/discussion/7457.html
 
I had the same kind of discussion on a forum a few days ago, and the CT-guy gave two examples: Pegelow and someone called Jeff King. I know nothing about this King, the CT-guy said it was someone from MIT, and gave this ... video as link. :)
 
I have a question for The Architect and Anti-Sophist (who I believe is a structural engineer?).

I read a statement by an architect who claims the collapse of the towers was due to a design flaw. The design flaw concerns the visoelastic dampening system used it the wtc.

Any validity to this?

Here's the link.

http://www.designcommunity.com/discussion/7457.html

That's certainly his opinion. It is my opinion that this particular architect is using an awful lot of 20/20 hindsight and pretending that design codes in the 60's and 70's are the same as those today.

For the record, I'm a structural/materials engineer with a master's degree in civil engineering. No one in my firm, as well as none of the members of the faculty of Civil Engineering at my school believes in any form of controlled demolition for any tower.
 
That's certainly his opinion. It is my opinion that this particular architect is using an awful lot of 20/20 hindsight and pretending that design codes in the 60's and 70's are the same as those today.

For the record, I'm a structural/materials engineer with a master's degree in civil engineering. No one in my firm, as well as none of the members of the faculty of Civil Engineering at my school believes in any form of controlled demolition for any tower.
Thanks for the quick response.

Ya...I'm don't believe in CD or Santa anymore so thats not where i was going with that. I just wondered about his claim that the viscoelastic dampeners were integral to the structural integrity of the building.
 
I had the same kind of discussion on a forum a few days ago, and the CT-guy gave two examples: Pegelow and someone called Jeff King. I know nothing about this King, the CT-guy said it was someone from MIT, and gave this ... video as link. :)

Jeff King is an MIT electrical engineer who hasn't even practiced his work in 25 years. He believes Telsa weapons were used.
 
I have a question for The Architect and Anti-Sophist (who I believe is a structural engineer?).

I read a statement by an architect who claims the collapse of the towers was due to a design flaw. The design flaw concerns the visoelastic dampening system used it the wtc.

Any validity to this?

Here's the link.

http://www.designcommunity.com/discussion/7457.html

That's a pretty old report, written at around the time when they were still speculating on what caused the towers to collapse.

More recent studies - like the ones noted in the recent PBS Nova episode Building On Ground Zero - have found the WTC 1 & 2 to have been structurally sound, and that the final collapse was triggered when the internal floor trusses had been so warped by the fire that they snapped the external colunms they were attached to.
 
In my architectural office, we use the spare time normally left over at the end of lunch to see what kind of nutty things the CT'ers are coming up with . . . usually, I either end up here or at the Screw Loose Change blog. So that's 4 more architects and 1 structural engineer who think the controlled demo theory is rubbish (small firm, yeah I know).

From a visual standpoint I can see why any expert might speculate that WTC 7 was demolished by professionals after looking at a quick video clip. It failed at / near the bottom, like a standard demo, and it's nowhere near as recognisable a building as WTC 1 and 2 so you don't necessarily consider what else may have caused it, at least in that little 9-second video clip that is shown so often. Especially if shown the WTC clip after video of the Twin Towers collapsing, since those don't even look similar to any demolition that would ever be performed, one's "gut" reaction might be, "Yes, this is what a CD is supposed to look like, not from the top down like the other 2."

And, you would be right in your observations but wrong in your conclusions if you thought that. It does look a lot more like a conventional building implosion than the other collapses. That's only because it failed in a similar way. And, as far as I have heard, the experts who initially said that it looked like a demo originally have ammended or clarified their statements as more evidence has become available to them.
 
I work in a large A/E firm with a stable of very talented structural engineers. We're insanely busy at the moment, but I'm tempted to invite some of them over to this forum for some fun, but am wary of exposing them to the star wars beam death weapon, flyover, chemtrails, nwo nuttery and the likes of such characters as Killtown, PDoughy, Troothy1234, LytePole.
 
I have an MS in Electrical Engineering.
Sorry, I thought I had read in one of your posts that you were a structural engineer.

The post is old and I kind of wonder if this gentleman has changed his mind about the design flaw bit.

Thanks for the reply anyway.:)
 
Argument with a workmate, so just wanted to check something.

Is it still just Mr Jowenko out of the entire world community of Structural Engineers and/or Demolition Contractors who believe the towers and WTC 7 were brought down by controlled demolition?

Thanks :)

Looking at the Jowenko film, there is an increasing impression of unease as he realises he's digging a deeper hole for himself. I don't know what he's saying about it now.
 

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