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Rep. Steve King defends dogfighting

I'm not massively opposed to cockfighting, or even dogfighting, for that matter. But for dogssakes, does this guy know how to pick his battles, or what?
 
Montag451 said:
Cock fighting is very common in Peru.

Onw of my closest friends here is an ex Bull fighter who has been the peruvian champion fighting cock beeeder. Dog fights go on but he thinks they are cruel.

They even have specialist spur makers for the cocks. Mad.
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No genius, we need to put razor blades gauntlets on our boxers!
 
angrysoba said:
Did you know that dogfighting is still legal in Japan. But, being Japan, it is a much gentler form of dogfighting. It's rare but it goes on in Shikoku:

Dog fighting evolved in Kōchi to a form that is called tōken (闘犬?). Under modern rules, dogs fight in a fenced ring until one of the dogs barks, yelps, or loses the will to fight. Owners are allowed to throw in the towel, and matches are stopped if a doctor judges it is too dangerous. Draws usually occur when both dogs will not fight or both dogs fight until the time limit. There are various other rules, including one that specifies that a dog will lose if it attempts to copulate.Champion dogs are called yokozuna, as in sumo. Dog fighting is not banned at a nationwide level, but the prefectures of Tokyo, Kanagawa, Fukui, Ishikawa, Toyama and Hokkaidō all ban the practice.[9] Currently, most fighting dogs in Japan are of the Tosa breed which is native to Kōchi.[10] Dog fighting does have strong links to gambling in Japan.
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Make war, not love.
 
Cain said:
ETA: Hey everybody, look at how many kittens I tried to kill at once!
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I'm not sure which worries me more: That you think this sort of levity belongs in a thread about dogfighting, or that you had to use the word "tried".
 
Arcade22 said:
Amazing argumentative skills. Got any other arguments from platitudes?
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Google image search on "dogfighting victim."

This isn't a scientific argument or a mathematical proof.

Some things are self-evident if you just have a little empathy.

From the perspective of a sociopath or a psychopath, there is probably no reason to ban the practice. But then, from the perspective of a sociopath or a psychopath, there is no reason not to murder, rape or steal either, if you can get away with it.
 
Arcade22 said:
Amazing argumentative skills. Got any other arguments from platitudes?
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People who torture animals are several more likely to torture humans or become serial killers than those who do not.

(Hmmm...King is a republicon. Most serial killers are republicons...Just sayin'.)
 
Once a dog signs a contract for a professional fight, I'll agree that it should be legal.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Once a dog signs a contract for a professional fight, I'll agree that it should be legal.
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And should cows have to sign over their lives to Farmer John? C'mon, you people are being ridiculous because you're all suggesting that animals have rights. Which is ridiculous. Clearly.
 
Cain said:
And should cows have to sign over their lives to Farmer John? C'mon, you people are being ridiculous because you're all suggesting that animals have rights. Which is ridiculous. Clearly.
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I don't think animals should have rights, but torturing them is wrong. It's one thing to kill an animal as food, it's entirely something else to be entertained with their torture and suffering.
 
thaiboxerken said:
I don't think animals should have rights, but torturing them is wrong. It's one thing to kill an animal as food, it's entirely something else to be entertained with their torture and suffering.
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This strikes me as somewhat intolerant. Liberalism has a long tradition of prioritizing the right over the good. Maybe polyamory and humans do not generally make for successful relationships, or free speech coarsens the culture, or dog fighting results in needless (animal) suffering. Well, those are the costs of freedom. Besides, given the number of animals processed each year for food -- literally -- I would expect animal suffering on factory farms and slaughterhouses to far exceed what happens to dogs in fights.

There also seems to be some misunderstanding about the sub-groups in question. Dog fighting is not just relatively more common in "white trash" culture, but black culture. And the way how liberals misunderstand prayer at sports (they don't pray to God for victory, but to instill players with the spirit and energy to put forth their best effort), liberals also misunderstand dog-fights: a contest of champions.

Being a good liberal means neutrality in others' lifestyle choices. If animals do not have rights, as you say, then people should be allowed to dispose of their property as they see fit (provided no one else is harmed). If you do not like what happens in dog fights, then don't search the Internet for gruesome images. Same goes for conservatives who think gay butt-******* is "nasty."
 
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