BobTheCoward
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There isn't anything wrong with it if they acknowledge a battlefield is a workplace. It is wrong if they do not because there is a contradiction.
Rep. Katie Hill announces resignation
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There isn't anything wrong with it if they acknowledge a battlefield is a workplace. It is wrong if they do not because there is a contradiction.
smartcooky
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The battlefield is a workplace. Its the location where the soldiers do what they are being paid for by their employer.
NOTE: This was the last reply I will be making to any of your posts in this thread. I am not going to be drawn into one of your silly, never ending games of "what if", where you keep incrementally shifting the debate until you are arguing that black is actually white and left is actually right. I other worlds, I will not be "Bobbed"
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It appears she coerced a subordinate. That makes "consent" an issue. Also, just don't get into affairs with people who work for you. Just don't
And Red State. They published explicit photos as well. Gawker was shut down for pretty much this same thing. But somehow, I don't see Peter Thiel or anyone other millionaire "privacy defender" bankrolling her lawsuit.
She represents a swing district and is a woman who enjoys sex. Both make her a target and the latter is leverage against her.
Steve
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What if....What if?.... All posts off topic.
BobTheCoward
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Interesting, but you were not the one making the argument.
Oh, obviously. I would hope that would go without saying, and I'm not saying it's okay. Again, it's clearly unprofessional on her part. I will clarify that I haven't seen anything about coercion; of course, when this kind of behavior is involving a subordinate, things are always tricky, but I've only seen accounts of a consensual relationship, or least as consensual a that kind of relationship can be (ie, no quid pro quo or anything else like that). If coercion was involved beyond the grey area inherently created by the supervisor/subordinate dynamic, then that would obviously be a big problem. Then again, that kind of relationship is incredibly common, from what I've heard from friends. I'm not saying she didn't do anything wrong, it's just my opinion that her actions are pretty typical (maybe even tame) in politics and probably wouldn't raise an eye were it not for conservative media trying to take her down, possibly aided by a revenge porn angle from her (now ex?) husband. If her behavior was bad enough to warrant a resignation, then the public should demand resignation from almost everyone involved in politics.
Yep, that's kind of why the situation bugs me. It's pretty obvious what's happening, but I guess because Hill is kind of low-hanging fruit (a young, openly bisexual women in a swing district), it's easy to get away with it. But hey, it's politics, so low-blows are to be expected, I guess.
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Ziggurat
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From what I understand, the bong picture predated California legalization.
The iron cross thing I don't care about. There's too many possible innocuous uses for it, and people have unfairly gone after others for having similar tattoos in the past. So I'm not going to count that as a strike against her. But her sexual affair with a staffer is a major no-no, her drinking problem is a problem, and it was right for her to resign.
Once again, i ask why does anybody need to put naked pix of themselves on their phones and send them to others, who can send them on and on and on forever? At least film prints and negatives could be kept locked up and destroyed if necessary. For the rest of her life, no matter what she does, these silly pictures will haunt her. How could a moment's fun be worth it?
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theprestige
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"Information promiscuity."
Yeah, the Iron Cross could mean a lot of things. It's even been called a blessing for surfers.
http://www.patriotic-jewelry.com/cross-surfer.htm
But it's also used as a white nationalist symbol. It's up to her to explain what it means to her.
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Misusing campaign funds is the real problem for her keeping her position.
The revenge porn thing is otherwise the worst action described.
smartcooky
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Its also very similar to the Maltese Cross, and the Crux Pattee, the symbol of the Knights Templar.
The Iron Cross dates back to the early 19th century, to the time of King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia. Even if her tattoo is an iron cross, it is not the Nazi symbol unless is has a swastika at a 45° angle in the centre.
theprestige
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Eh. I don't believe hers is a Nazi symbol. But I bet there are a lot of neo Nazis who display it without the swastika.
TragicMonkey
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You could ask that about absolutely anything sexual. Yet, oddly enough, people still seem to do sex stuff, no matter what the consequences.
Stacyhs
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Nah. There's a reason the term "being Bobbed" exists.
I get the "heart wants what it wants" (and ever variation thereoff) but I think the question is less "Why did you do the wrong/illegal/outrageous/dangerous/harmful thing for sex" and more "Why did you do the wrong/illegal/outrageous/dangerous/harmful thing for that particular act of sex?"
Katie Hill is successful, well off, and isn't like horrible looking or anything. I doubt she was particularly limited in potential sexual and romantic partners.
But again this is a question that could be asked a lot of a lot of people in a lot of situations.
Katie Hill is successful, well off, and isn't like horrible looking or anything. I doubt she was particularly limited in potential sexual and romantic partners.
But again this is a question that could be asked a lot of a lot of people in a lot of situations.
Stacyhs
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It's a stupid, stupid, stupid thing to do. It's not like ex-husbands/lovers/hackers haven't done this on multiple well-advertised occssions. Did I mention it's a stupid thing to do?
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No, she doesn't have to explain. It's a private tattoo, the public was never supposed to see it. She doesn't owe anyone an explanation for that.
Stacyhs
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Could be because neo-Nazis don't generally tend to be well-educated, intelligent people.
TragicMonkey
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Are you new to sex? That's how it works! That's part of the magic of it! One minute you're leading your ordinary mundane life and then next you're, I don't know, engaged in erotic knife play in an unlocked storage closet in the employees-only delivery dock of a Carolina Pottery. It's hormones, it's crazy, it's messy, and afterwards you wonder what on earth you were thinking but in the moment, man, you were very definitely alive and loving it! And you have wonderful memories to look back on. Possibly as a witness in a court case, but such is life.