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Remembering 9/11...Republican style

Segnosaur said:
Keep in mind that the republican deception involved a 9/11 memorial service. Something that most people would be respectful of.

Its like if your football team involved urinating on an American flag as part of its fake handoff play as part of the deception.

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Further, equating such treachery to a legitimate play in a sporting contest is sorta beyond the pale. It's not a game of Hearts, it's the governance of a state.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Further, equating such treachery to a legitimate play in a sporting contest is sorta beyond the pale. It's not a game of Hearts, it's the governance of a state.
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Dan Bishop won the special election, they're just getting started on a Republican voter mandate which seems to be an approval of the job the GOP has been trying to get done in NC.

Democratic obstruction does not get things done. Bravo NC!

Chris B.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Dan Bishop won the special election, they're just getting started on a Republican voter mandate which seems to be an approval of the job the GOP has been trying to get done in NC.

Democratic obstruction does not get things done. Bravo NC!

Chris B.
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Bishop barely took the district. The GOP margin is down about 10% compared to 2016. But there's an actual thread for that. THIS thread is about GOP dirty tricks at the state level.

Are you a zero-sum Trumper? Anything as long as you get your way? It was a smarmy trick by smarmy people. This is the same state party that has had its redistricting plans thrown out of the courts at least twice, now and the same group that, upon losing the state house to a Dem governor immediately proceeded, Wisconsin style, to limit the authorities they had just granted (in the previous session) to the governor.
 
Republicans can't win on the merits of their ideas and policies, so they have to cheat.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Further, equating such treachery to a legitimate play in a sporting contest is sorta beyond the pale. It's not a game of Hearts, it's the governance of a state.
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That is asserting a difference without saying what the difference actually is. Both have a set of rules and procedures. You are generally permitted to pursue a strategy that doesn't violate the rules.
 
Right wingers tend to have the mindset that if it's not illegal, then it's fair to do. And by illegal, they really mean if they can get away with it.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Dan Bishop won the special election, they're just getting started on a Republican voter mandate which seems to be an approval of the job the GOP has been trying to get done in NC.

Democratic obstruction does not get things done. Bravo NC!

Chris B.
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The Hill plays it out differently:

The veto override occurred with nearly half of the House's members absent. Many were attending committee meetings during the 55-9 Wednesday morning vote called by the Republican Speaker, and at least one was at a 9/11 anniversary ceremony.
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
Dan Bishop won the special election, they're just getting started on a Republican voter mandate which seems to be an approval of the job the GOP has been trying to get done in NC.
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Correction... Bishop won one congressional district (representing only a tiny fraction of the population of the state), and at a different level of government (federal, not state).

That's hardly a 'voter mandate' or an indication of any sort of widespread approval of the actions of republicans in the state.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Further, equating such treachery to a legitimate play in a sporting contest is sorta beyond the pale. It's not a game of Hearts, it's the governance of a state.
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That is asserting a difference without saying what the difference actually is.
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There are 2 main differences where your football analogy fails...

- Sports are, by design, completely competitive. On the other hand, Politics often involves compromise, bipartisanship, and trust. (If both sides become intractable, and trust breaks down, gridlock can ensue which harms EVERYONE.) So, the republicans won this little battle. Good luck getting the democrats to trust in the future. They've made it harder for the government as a whole to function.

- A football team is basically playing for the benefit of fans of the team. What the fans of the opposing team think is irrelevant. But when you are a politician, you represent all citizens in your area, not just the ones that voted for you. (After all, they still pay their taxes, contribute to society, etc.) At least some of the people in those districts that the state senators represent voted for the democrats. While I'm not saying that a politician has to totally abandon their policies in favor of what the opposition wants, they should be at least willing to recognize their concerns.

By the way, I notice you ignored the post where I pointed out that part of the problem was that all of this took place on 9/11.

To most people, 9/11 was a horrific event... thousands of people died, hundreds more risked their lives in an attempt to prevent further deaths. Hundreds of people now have serious health concerns as a result of their actions stemming from 9/11. To those people who suffered as a result of 9/11, the day should be treated with some respect. On the other hand, the republicans decided to use the event as a prop in order to cheat the system.

They are basically crapping on 9/11 victims. And you are ok with that.

And that's the GOP for you.
 
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pgwenthold said:
In memory of the tragedy of 9/11, people all over the country are going to memorials and whatnot.

That's what democratic legislators in North Carolina did.

And while they were gone, republican leadership called a surprise vote to override the governor's veto of a budget bill. With all the opposition out, they were able to override the veto.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article234962017.html

Come on, someone try to defend it.
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How is that legal?
 
Of course had the Democratic lawmakers not gone to the 9/11 memorial, for fear of leaving the Republicans free do do their deeds, then they would have been castigated for being un-American communists and Islamic terrorist enablers and failing to respect the victims of terrorism.

Of course GOPers who are actually failing to respect the victims of terrorism are given a pass for *reasons*
 
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