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Merged Remember the West Memphis 3?

If there was DNA evidence available, why did the idiot prosecutor not run the tersts?

Now that they are out, perhaps the three should demand that the tests be done anyway. If they are innocent, there is still a deranged killer out there somewhere who might strike again.

This would, of course, make the prosecutor and the cops who allegedly coerced a confession accessories to whatever crimes the actual killers may have committed since then.
 
Another bump.

Wrt the Alford pleas which set the three men free - one of the victims fathers is now petitioning Congress to change the law.

MEMPHIS, TN - The Alford Plea set convicted murderer, Margo Freshwater and the West Memphis Three free, now the families of murder victims say justice wasn't served.

Hillman Robbins, Sr., was killed in the back of a liquor store in 1966. His accused murderers were also linked to murders in Florida and Mississippi. Glenn Nash, a former lawyer in Memphis, was found insane and never convicted. His accomplice, Margo Freshwater, was sentenced to 99 years in prison. She escaped and was captured 30 years later, but was recently granted a new trial. Then the Alford plea came in.

"I was very happy when I found out she was going to plea guilty and she would come up for parole and I could voice my opinion," Robbins' grandson, Hillman Robbins, III, told abc24.com.

However, as Steve Branch found out the hard way, it's not that easy.

"In court the prosecutors said we're doing what's best for the state and courts, they didn't say anything about doing what's best for the family members or murder victims," Branch told abc24.com.

Branch's son, Stevie Branch, a boy scout, was murdered and mutilated, along with two other boys, in West Memphis. Damien Echols, Jessie Misskelley and Jason Baldwin, known as the West Memphis Three, were found guilty for their murders. Echols was sentenced to death. But in a surprise move in August, 2011, they were set free, by an Alford plea.

"The Alford law is to me is a key from hell, it's unlocking every cell door on death row to let every murderer in there come right back here on us." said Branch. "Somebody needs to stop this."

The West Memphis Three and Freshwater pleaded guilty to the murders, but maintained their innocence. Prosecutors use the plea as a tool in old cases that are granted a new trial. They bargain a shorter sentence and admittance of guilt to keep the case from returning to court.

Shelby County Assistant District Attorney, John Campbell, was the prosecutor against Freshwater. He helped strike the deal with her.

"We're assessing a 43 year old murder case. All the witnesses are dead so you're looking at retrying based on transcripts," said Campbell.

Campbell also told abc24.com it's a difficult case to win. However, Branch and Robbins, both still grieving from murders decades ago, wish they would try.

"I can't sleep too well," said Branch. "I feel my son tugging at me, he's saying what happened, why are my killers being set free like that? It's because of this Alford law."

"The justice system did not work in this case, there are two other people murdered and what about them?" Robbins told abc24.com.

Robbins is trying to get past the pain, and forget about Freshwater. Branch plans to take his fight to Washington in January, 2012, to ask Congress to get rid of the Alford plea.

Sorry, I can't post the link before I've made 15 posts. Its on the abc24 new site.
 
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johnny depp & the west memphis three

When Depp and other celebrities got three men excused from their prison sentences for murdering 3 young boys, I did not know all the facts and assumed Depp had done a "good" deed. Watch this movie in 8 parts for free on YouTube and learn the truth about the murders of these boys and their killers. Chilling......

YouTube dot com / watch?v=5ZGKuw31hcw&list=PLA9fXYGXgbKZw2RiM2Cys434CEK9pr4NN
 
Johnny Depp did not get the wm3 excused from their prison sentences. The Arkansas State Supreme court ordered an evidentiary hearing, and the prosecutor preferred to do a plea deal rather than take his chances with the court.
 
When Depp and other celebrities got three men excused from their prison sentences for murdering 3 young boys, I did not know all the facts and assumed Depp had done a "good" deed. Watch this movie in 8 parts for free on YouTube and learn the truth about the murders of these boys and their killers. Chilling......

YouTube dot com / watch?v=5ZGKuw31hcw&list=PLA9fXYGXgbKZw2RiM2Cys434CEK9pr4NN

Youtube drive by posting , he ?

Let me guess, the problem of the DNA evidence is not even mentionned, right ? The "satanic" ritual scare and other investigation failure are not mentionned , right ? I ask because I have no intentiuon whatsoever to watch a lengthy video if it does not even mention those points.

Since you watched it I am sure you can point us to the where the DNA evidence and other prosecural failure are mentionned among those 8 video.
 
I gave the video (which is called "Jesus Loves Johnny Depp") 2 or 3 minutes before switching it off. It mostly consists of Bible verses shown on screen incredibly slowly and random statements some of which are completely unrelated to the WM3 case. It's almost guaranteed to drive away anyone who isn't a Christian nutcase or a seriously slow reader. It's posted by a user called 1John4Six (there should have been a trigger warning, surely?;)), one of the comments underneath is word-for-word identical to the OP which makes the OP strongly resemble spam, and it looks like only about 400 people have made it through the entire thing in the last 4 months. I hereby call into question the sanity of each and every one of those people.
 
When Depp and other celebrities got three men excused from their prison sentences for murdering 3 young boys, I did not know all the facts and assumed Depp had done a "good" deed. Watch this movie in 8 parts for free on YouTube and learn the truth about the murders of these boys and their killers. Chilling......

YouTube dot com / watch?v=5ZGKuw31hcw&list=PLA9fXYGXgbKZw2RiM2Cys434CEK9pr4NN

Your link doesn't seem to be active, I can't fix it and I don't have time right now to watch it anyway. Can you give us a brief synopsis of what it's about?

I have seen criticism of the original documentary for playing amateur detective and apparently naming who the producers believe the real killer is. What is this new movie about? Are they alleging the West Memphis Three really did do it? Based on what?
 
Youtube drive by posting , he ?

Let me guess, the problem of the DNA evidence is not even mentionned, right ? The "satanic" ritual scare and other investigation failure are not mentionned , right ? I ask because I have no intentiuon whatsoever to watch a lengthy video if it does not even mention those points.

Since you watched it I am sure you can point us to the where the DNA evidence and other prosecural failure are mentionned among those 8 video.

What he said^. Don't forget the juror misconduct and allegations of judicial misconduct. I lived across the River in Memphis at the time. Even then I couldn't believe those corrupt and incompetent cops and courts got a conviction.

The **** they introduced as evidence included a stack of black t-shirts and Metallica CDs. and a large knife found in a lake that couldn't be connected to the crime in any way. Proof of satanic worship, don't you know.

Their expert witness (Who got his degree from a mail-order diploma mill) testified that the presence of blood would be proof of a satanic ritual, and the absence of blood (as was the case) was proof that they saved the victims' blood for future satanic rituals. Can you say "unfalsifiable"?
 
Your link doesn't seem to be active, I can't fix it and I don't have time right now to watch it anyway. Can you give us a brief synopsis of what it's about?

I have seen criticism of the original documentary for playing amateur detective and apparently naming who the producers believe the real killer is. What is this new movie about? Are they alleging the West Memphis Three really did do it? Based on what?

The original documentary makers didn't name who they thought did it. They let John Mark Byers talk on camera, and he came across as bat crap crazy. If anybody was playing amateur detective, it was the West Memphis, Arkansas Police Department. It is impossible to exaggerate their incompetence.
 
The original documentary makers didn't name who they thought did it. They let John Mark Byers talk on camera, and he came across as bat crap crazy. If anybody was playing amateur detective, it was the West Memphis, Arkansas Police Department. It is impossible to exaggerate their incompetence.

More recently, suspicion has shifted to Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of victim Stevie Branch.
 
More recently, suspicion has shifted to Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of victim Stevie Branch.

Is that the one with the teeth? I remember reading at the time that one piece of evidence was a bite mark, and one of the victim's had a stepfather who got dentures during the investigation before anybody could look at his bite. Of course that wasn't suspicious in the least, not when there were teenagers wearing black t-shirts in the area.
 
Mr. Byers is unusual

The original documentary makers didn't name who they thought did it. They let John Mark Byers talk on camera, and he came across as bat crap crazy. If anybody was playing amateur detective, it was the West Memphis, Arkansas Police Department. It is impossible to exaggerate their incompetence.
Mr. Byers has not led a perfect life. However, he deserves an honorary membership in JREFF just for his willingness to reconsider whether or not the WM3 are actually guilty. He is unusual among parents of murder victims in this regard (consider the Norfolk Four and Eric Volz cases).
 
Mr. Byers has not led a perfect life. However, he deserves an honorary membership in JREFF just for his willingness to reconsider whether or not the WM3 are actually guilty. He is unusual among parents of murder victims in this regard (consider the Norfolk Four and Eric Volz cases).

From what I recall, the timeline of Mr. Byers' movements pretty much precludes him being involved anyway, despite how he came off in the first movie. He was seen in too many places by too many people to have been able to commit the murders. As far as the bite thing, from what I recall, the claim that there were human bite marks on one of the victims wasn't borne out by examination. Most of their wounds appeared to have been caused by animals and vegetation.
 
I gave the video (which is called "Jesus Loves Johnny Depp") 2 or 3 minutes before switching it off. It mostly consists of Bible verses shown on screen incredibly slowly and random statements some of which are completely unrelated to the WM3 case. It's almost guaranteed to drive away anyone who isn't a Christian nutcase or a seriously slow reader. It's posted by a user called 1John4Six (there should have been a trigger warning, surely?;)), one of the comments underneath is word-for-word identical to the OP which makes the OP strongly resemble spam, and it looks like only about 400 people have made it through the entire thing in the last 4 months. I hereby call into question the sanity of each and every one of those people.

Thanks. I posted my original message a couple minutes after you posted yours and it explains a lot. I didn't see your message because I was spending a few minutes trying to get the link in the OP to work. You're right, the OP does look like spam.

It looks like there is some effort on the Christian Right to smear Johnny Depp and that's too bad. Since Sarah Palin is also on their hit list it's not surprising though.
 
Thanks. I posted my original message a couple minutes after you posted yours and it explains a lot. I didn't see your message because I was spending a few minutes trying to get the link in the OP to work. You're right, the OP does look like spam.

It looks like there is some effort on the Christian Right to smear Johnny Depp and that's too bad. Since Sarah Palin is also on their hit list it's not surprising though.
This. There's a xian whackjob named William Ramsey who's pushing his book on the case; usual satanic panic crap.

Also I see the seagull OP is spamming this crap all around the web.:rolleyes:
 
Is that the one with the teeth? I remember reading at the time that one piece of evidence was a bite mark, and one of the victim's had a stepfather who got dentures during the investigation before anybody could look at his bite. Of course that wasn't suspicious in the least, not when there were teenagers wearing black t-shirts in the area.

No Byers was was the one with the teeth. He is the father of one of the other three boys.

Mr. Byers has not led a perfect life. However, he deserves an honorary membership in JREFF just for his willingness to reconsider whether or not the WM3 are actually guilty. He is unusual among parents of murder victims in this regard (consider the Norfolk Four and Eric Volz cases).

I disagree. My take on him (from Paradise Lost 3) is that he just shifted the focus of his crazy hate from the kids to Terry Hobbs, and he has just as much passion about it as he did before about the WM3.
 
I've followed this case for years, was there ever a thread here at JREF about it? I would be surprised if there wasn't.

Obviously there are two sides, those that do not believe the WM3 did it and those that believe they did it. The case against the WM3 was very weak, and the case against any other suspects (of which the police had none) was also weak. Essentially I'm not convinced that the WM3 were the killers and I don't think this case will ever really be solved. The evidence to convict anyone is just not there anymore.

The WM3 were released after entering an Alford Plea, which is a not so well known legal process. The State still considers them guilty although they were released.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alford_plea
 
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Johhny Depp, like Eddie Vedder, was a believer in the WM3's innocence and helped to bring attention and notoriety to the case. They may or may not have contributed to the defense fund. I don't know. Other than that they weren't really involved, and of course they only heard about the case many years later like many people.
 

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