Religious freedom and contraception

[Neally]

And I said to read the report from the health care experts who made the recommendation. They cite their sources.

LOL. It doesn't work that way, except maybe for the amateurs that try to argue for conspiracies, "Go watch this Youtube video, it explains everything!"

It's up to you to pull the relevant evidence that specifically supports the claim that shows that private employer health plan provided contraception coverage increases contraception usage over private employer health plans which don't offer contraception coverage, then cite the sources.

It's ridiculous to claim that not a single woman who doesn't currently use birth control would use it if it's completely covered by their employer-provided health plan. Is that really your position?

Is it really your position that if one single woman starts using contraception as a result of employer provided contraception, that would justify the cost imposition to all employers nationwide?

 

[Bri]

LOL. It doesn't work that way, except maybe for the amateurs that try to argue for conspiracies, "Go watch this Youtube video, it explains everything!"

It's up to you to pull the relevant evidence that specifically supports the claim that shows that private employer health plan provided contraception coverage increases contraception usage over private employer health plans which don't offer contraception coverage, then cite the sources.

If you don't want to read the report by the health experts who made the recommendation, I can't do anything for you.

Is it really your position that if one single woman starts using contraception as a result of employer provided contraception, that would justify the cost imposition to all employers nationwide?

Nope, that wasn't my position. Is it your position that only one woman would start using contraception as a result of employer provided contraception?

-Bri

 

[Neally]

If you don't want to read the report by the health experts who made the recommendation, I can't do anything for you.

translation - "Go watch the video! It proves everything!"

Nope, that wasn't my position. Is it your position that only one woman would start using contraception as a result of employer provided contraception?

Nope, that wasn't my position. The responsibility is yours to justify the employer mandated coverage.

 

[Silly Green Monkey]

Why are you assuming that employer mandated coverage of birth control will make it free?

 

[Bri]

translation - "Go watch the video! It proves everything!"

Neally, not only is that a straw man (I never said the report proves everything) but your refusal to read the evidence just seems like you'd rather argue than understand.

Nope, that wasn't my position. The responsibility is yours to justify the employer mandated coverage.

Which I did. If you don't want to look at the evidence, that's certainly your prerogative.

Bottom line: It's clear that the recommendations would cause some women to use birth contraceptives who wouldn't otherwise. It's not as certain how many women would do so. Although you've contradicted yourself (at times saying that no women will use contraceptives under the recommendations while at other times admitting that some would) you apparently believe the number to be insufficient to justify the mandated coverage. The experts disagree with you. I agree with the experts.

-Bri

 

[Bri]

Why are you assuming that employer mandated coverage of birth control will make it free?

The mandate requires first-dollar coverage, which essentially means that there's no copay. It's not actually free, of course -- the cost would be spread around. So the cost to the woman would be whatever portion of her insurance premium she pays.

-Bri