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Reincarnation as a trivial scientific fact

Congressman Weiner received his soul from JFK in 1963, who got it from Roger Casement in 1916, from Sam Houston in 1863, from American Revolution naval hero John Paul Jones in 1793 (Had to leave Russia when he was charged with molesting a 10 year old girl.), from Philip V of Spain in 1746, from Tsar Feodor III of Russia in 1682, from Charles X Gustav of Sweden in 1660, from Sultan Osman II of the Ottoman Empire in 1622 and from Queen Elizabeth I of England in 1603.

Weiner has the soul of Elizabeth I. Amazing!!!! :wow2::explode::czwacky:
 
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Huh...proof of reincarnation- As one gets older more and more of ones memories become irrelevant to those younger than you.
 
On August, 1916, Irish nationalist Roger Casement was executed by the English. That was 9 months before JFK's birth. Besides his patriotic activities for Irish independence, Casement is remembered for his struggles against human rights abuses in Congo and Peru. There were imputations of homosexuality and pedophilia aimed to disarm those advocating commutation of Casement's death sentence.

It's obvious, all 3 are or were left-leaning, involved in politics, and had scandalous sex lives. It's the same soul from Casement, to JFK, to Weiner.:rolleyes:

ETA: 9 months before Casement was born, Sam Houston died .on Jul. 26, 1863. There's also some nice gossip about Sam's first wife.


Congressman Weiner received his soul from JFK in 1963, who got it from Roger Casement in 1916, from Sam Houston in 1863, from American Revolution naval hero John Paul Jones in 1793 (Had to leave Russia when he was charged with molesting a 10 year old girl.), from Philip V of Spain in 1746, from Tsar Feodor III of Russia in 1682, from Charles X Gustav of Sweden in 1660, from Sultan Osman II of the Ottoman Empire in 1622 and from Queen Elizabeth I of England in 1603.


The reincarnation chain, as presented in your second post, elegantly demonstrates the difference between reasonable and unreasonable hypotheses.

At first the unreasonable-hypotheses part:

  • Elizabeth I (7 September 1533 – 24 March 1603)
  • Sultan Osman II (November 3, 1604 – May 20, 1622)
  • Charles X Gustav of Sweden (8 November 1622 – 13 February 1660)
  • Feodor III of Russia (9 June 1661 – 7 May 1682)
  • Philip V of Spain (19 December 1683 - 9 July 1746)
  • John Paul Jones (July 6, 1747 – July 18, 1792)
And here the reasonable part:

From the death of John Paul Jones to the birth of Sam Houston only six and a half months passed. So the conception of Sam would have taken place when Paul was still alive. As conception and embryonal development of a new incarnation cost a lot of psychic energy to the old incarnation, this could explain why John could not recover from his interstitial nephritis and died at the age of 45 (see also #406 and #435).

John Paul was born on the southwest coast of Scotland:

"For several years John sailed aboard a number of different British merchant and slaver ships, including the King George in 1764 as third mate, and the Two Friends as first mate in 1766. After a short time in this business, he became disgusted with the cruelty in the slave trade, and in 1768 he abandoned his prestigious position on the profitable Two Friends while docked in Jamaica."

"During his second voyage in 1770, John Paul viciously flogged one of his sailors, leading to accusations that his discipline was "unnecessarily cruel." While these claims were initially dismissed, his favorable reputation was destroyed when the disciplined sailor died a few weeks later. Sources disagree on whether he was arrested for his involvement in the man’s death, but the negative effect on his reputation is indisputable."

"Sources struggle with this period of Jones's life, especially the specifics of his family situation, making it difficult to historically pinpoint Jones's exact motivations for emigrating to America."

Sam Houston, of Scots-Irish descent, was born in Virginia:

"His earlier life included migration to Tennessee from Virginia, time spent with the Cherokee Nation (into which he later was adopted as a citizen and took a wife), military service in the War of 1812, and successful participation in Tennessee politics. Houston is the only person in U.S. history to have been the governor of two different states (…)."

"In 1830 and again in 1832 Houston visited Washington, DC to expose the frauds which government agents committed against the Cherokee. "

"To avoid bloodshed, he refused an offer of a Union army to put down the Confederate rebellion. Instead, he retired to Huntsville, Texas, where he died before the end of the Civil War."

Roger Casement was born in Dublin:

"He was a British consul by profession, famous for his reports and activities against human rights abuses in the Congo and Peru but better known for his dealings with Germany before Ireland's Easter Rising in 1916. An Irish nationalist and Parnellite in his youth, he worked in Africa for commercial interests and latterly in the service of Britain. However, the Boer War and his consular investigation into atrocities in the Congo led Casement to anti-Imperialist and ultimately to Irish Republican and separatist political opinions. He sought to obtain German support for a rebellion in Ireland against British rule. Shortly after the Easter Rising, he was arrested, convicted, and executed by the British for treason."

Cheers, Wolfgang

The difference between learning something new and mastered in previous life is substantial
 
The reincarnation chain, as presented in your second post, elegantly demonstrates the difference between reasonable and unreasonable hypotheses.

At first the unreasonable-hypotheses part:

  • Elizabeth I (7 September 1533 – 24 March 1603)
  • Sultan Osman II (November 3, 1604 – May 20, 1622)
  • Charles X Gustav of Sweden (8 November 1622 – 13 February 1660)
  • Feodor III of Russia (9 June 1661 – 7 May 1682)
  • Philip V of Spain (19 December 1683 - 9 July 1746)
  • John Paul Jones (July 6, 1747 – July 18, 1792)
And here the reasonable part:

From the death of John Paul Jones to the birth of Sam Houston only six and a half months passed. So the conception of Sam would have taken place when Paul was still alive. As conception and embryonal development of a new incarnation cost a lot of psychic energy to the old incarnation, this could explain why John could not recover from his interstitial nephritis and died at the age of 45 (see also #406 and #435).

John Paul was born on the southwest coast of Scotland:

"For several years John sailed aboard a number of different British merchant and slaver ships, including the King George in 1764 as third mate, and the Two Friends as first mate in 1766. After a short time in this business, he became disgusted with the cruelty in the slave trade, and in 1768 he abandoned his prestigious position on the profitable Two Friends while docked in Jamaica."

"During his second voyage in 1770, John Paul viciously flogged one of his sailors, leading to accusations that his discipline was "unnecessarily cruel." While these claims were initially dismissed, his favorable reputation was destroyed when the disciplined sailor died a few weeks later. Sources disagree on whether he was arrested for his involvement in the man’s death, but the negative effect on his reputation is indisputable."

"Sources struggle with this period of Jones's life, especially the specifics of his family situation, making it difficult to historically pinpoint Jones's exact motivations for emigrating to America."

Sam Houston, of Scots-Irish descent, was born in Virginia:

"His earlier life included migration to Tennessee from Virginia, time spent with the Cherokee Nation (into which he later was adopted as a citizen and took a wife), military service in the War of 1812, and successful participation in Tennessee politics. Houston is the only person in U.S. history to have been the governor of two different states (…)."

"In 1830 and again in 1832 Houston visited Washington, DC to expose the frauds which government agents committed against the Cherokee. "

"To avoid bloodshed, he refused an offer of a Union army to put down the Confederate rebellion. Instead, he retired to Huntsville, Texas, where he died before the end of the Civil War."

Roger Casement was born in Dublin:

"He was a British consul by profession, famous for his reports and activities against human rights abuses in the Congo and Peru but better known for his dealings with Germany before Ireland's Easter Rising in 1916. An Irish nationalist and Parnellite in his youth, he worked in Africa for commercial interests and latterly in the service of Britain. However, the Boer War and his consular investigation into atrocities in the Congo led Casement to anti-Imperialist and ultimately to Irish Republican and separatist political opinions. He sought to obtain German support for a rebellion in Ireland against British rule. Shortly after the Easter Rising, he was arrested, convicted, and executed by the British for treason."

Cheers, Wolfgang

The difference between learning something new and mastered in previous life is substantial
Yomero was joking. :rolleyes:
 
Wonder how many will catch that, w/o Google?

Pretty obscure.;)

Dave

When I was little we used to watch "To Tell the Truth" in the snow with a hand-cranked television.

We older folks recognize it.
 
The reincarnation chain, as presented in your second post, elegantly demonstrates the difference between reasonable and unreasonable hypotheses.

At first the unreasonable-hypotheses part:

  • Elizabeth I (7 September 1533 – 24 March 1603)
  • Sultan Osman II (November 3, 1604 – May 20, 1622)
  • Charles X Gustav of Sweden (8 November 1622 – 13 February 1660)
  • Feodor III of Russia (9 June 1661 – 7 May 1682)
  • Philip V of Spain (19 December 1683 - 9 July 1746)
  • John Paul Jones (July 6, 1747 – July 18, 1792)
And here the reasonable part:

From the death of John Paul Jones to the birth of Sam Houston only six and a half months passed. So the conception of Sam would have taken place when Paul was still alive. As conception and embryonal development of a new incarnation cost a lot of psychic energy to the old incarnation, this could explain why John could not recover from his interstitial nephritis and died at the age of 45 (see also #406 and #435).

John Paul was born on the southwest coast of Scotland:

"For several years John sailed aboard a number of different British merchant and slaver ships, including the King George in 1764 as third mate, and the Two Friends as first mate in 1766. After a short time in this business, he became disgusted with the cruelty in the slave trade, and in 1768 he abandoned his prestigious position on the profitable Two Friends while docked in Jamaica."

"During his second voyage in 1770, John Paul viciously flogged one of his sailors, leading to accusations that his discipline was "unnecessarily cruel." While these claims were initially dismissed, his favorable reputation was destroyed when the disciplined sailor died a few weeks later. Sources disagree on whether he was arrested for his involvement in the man’s death, but the negative effect on his reputation is indisputable."

"Sources struggle with this period of Jones's life, especially the specifics of his family situation, making it difficult to historically pinpoint Jones's exact motivations for emigrating to America."

Sam Houston, of Scots-Irish descent, was born in Virginia:

"His earlier life included migration to Tennessee from Virginia, time spent with the Cherokee Nation (into which he later was adopted as a citizen and took a wife), military service in the War of 1812, and successful participation in Tennessee politics. Houston is the only person in U.S. history to have been the governor of two different states (…)."

"In 1830 and again in 1832 Houston visited Washington, DC to expose the frauds which government agents committed against the Cherokee. "

"To avoid bloodshed, he refused an offer of a Union army to put down the Confederate rebellion. Instead, he retired to Huntsville, Texas, where he died before the end of the Civil War."

Roger Casement was born in Dublin:

"He was a British consul by profession, famous for his reports and activities against human rights abuses in the Congo and Peru but better known for his dealings with Germany before Ireland's Easter Rising in 1916. An Irish nationalist and Parnellite in his youth, he worked in Africa for commercial interests and latterly in the service of Britain. However, the Boer War and his consular investigation into atrocities in the Congo led Casement to anti-Imperialist and ultimately to Irish Republican and separatist political opinions. He sought to obtain German support for a rebellion in Ireland against British rule. Shortly after the Easter Rising, he was arrested, convicted, and executed by the British for treason."

Cheers, Wolfgang

The difference between learning something new and mastered in previous life is substantial

Are you joking?
 
Yomero was joking. :rolleyes:

Normally, I don't add smilies to my posts. Here I had 3 flashing, exploding, eye-rolling smilies. I thought they would be enough to clarify my intention, even if the absurdity of the message didn't make that clear.
 
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Normally, I don't add smilies to my posts. Here I had 3 flashing, exploding, eye-rolling smilies. I thought they would be enough to clarify my intention, even if the absurdity of the message didn't make that clear.
To Wogoga that message wasn't absurd!
 
A further, a priori rather improbable coincidence: Exactly nine months passed from the death of Roman Emperor Tiberius (Nov. 16, 42 BC – March 16, AD 37)

Tiberius was one of Rome's greatest generals, conquering Pannonia, Dalmatia, Raetia, and temporarily Germania; laying the foundations for the northern frontier. But he came to be remembered as a dark, reclusive, and sombre ruler who never really desired to be emperor; Pliny the Elder called him tristissimus hominum, "the gloomiest of men." Tiberius is considered to have lacked the political ability of his predecessor Augustus and was a jealous emperor; particularly distrustful of his popular general Germanicus. After the death of Tiberius’ son Drusus Julius Caesar in 23, the quality of his rule declined and ended in terror.

to the birth of Nero (15 Dec. 37 – 9 June 68):

Nero's rule is often associated with tyranny and extravagance. He is known for many executions, including those of his mother and the probable murder by poison of his stepbrother, Britannicus.

Thus a major short-term reason of Tiberius' death could have been Nero's conception, diverting a lot of psychic energy from Tiberius' incarnation to the new one (see #406).

Cheers, Wolfgang

The more, the longer scientific insights are ignored, ridiculed and fought, the more revolutionary they are
 
China's missing girls and demographic inconsistencies

Previous related posts: post #236 and post #448

Quotes from China Releases First 2010 Census Results:

For mainland China, the count was 1,339,724,852. Mainland China is the entity normally listed in population statistics, …. A post-enumeration survey estimated a census undercount of 0.12 percent. The count was 73,899,804 higher than the 2000 Census figure, an increase of 5.8 percent.

The overall sex ratio of the population, which was 106.7 [male per female] in 2000, decreased to 105.2 in 2010 despite the fact that the reported sex ratio at birth is quite high at about 119 males to 100 female births (…).

In 2000, this results in a male population of 653.4 million versus 612.4 (female), and in 2010, 686.8 versus 652.9.

Thus, from 2000 to 2010, the male population increase was 33.4 million whereas the female population increase was as high 40.5 million.
The sex ratio of the Chinese population increase between 2000 and 2010 turns out to be as low as 0.825 (males per females) versus 1.19 in the case of newborns, who are the main factor of this population increase.

Another interesting quote from the same source:

The share in the age group 65 and over rose from 7 percent in 2000 to 9 percent in 2010.

Nine percent of 1.34 billion results in around 120 million. Those 120 million people were born at the latest in 1945. Then total population is assumed to have been around 538 million (source).

This means that more than 20 percent of the whole population of 1945 survived over 65 years, despite civil war, Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution and other natural and human-made disasters!

Cheers, Wolfgang

In the same way as the appearance of so-called "new" pathogenic germs is only a consequence of new techniques to detect them or to differentiate them from related germs, the absurdly low world population figures attributed to the historic past are a result of the confusion of reality with census (and a remnant of the belief in Adam and Eve).
 
A further, a priori rather improbable coincidence: Exactly nine months passed from the death of Roman Emperor Tiberius (Nov. 16, 42 BC – March 16, AD 37)

Tiberius was one of Rome's greatest generals, conquering Pannonia, Dalmatia, Raetia, and temporarily Germania; laying the foundations for the northern frontier. But he came to be remembered as a dark, reclusive, and sombre ruler who never really desired to be emperor; Pliny the Elder called him tristissimus hominum, "the gloomiest of men." Tiberius is considered to have lacked the political ability of his predecessor Augustus and was a jealous emperor; particularly distrustful of his popular general Germanicus. After the death of Tiberius’ son Drusus Julius Caesar in 23, the quality of his rule declined and ended in terror.

to the birth of Nero (15 Dec. 37 – 9 June 68):

Nero's rule is often associated with tyranny and extravagance. He is known for many executions, including those of his mother and the probable murder by poison of his stepbrother, Britannicus.

Thus a major short-term reason of Tiberius' death could have been Nero's conception, diverting a lot of psychic energy from Tiberius' incarnation to the new one (see #406).

Cheers, Wolfgang

The more, the longer scientific insights are ignored, ridiculed and fought, the more revolutionary they are

Are you joking?
 
A further, a priori rather improbable coincidence: Exactly nine months passed from the death of Roman Emperor Tiberius (Nov. 16, 42 BC – March 16, AD 37)

Calendar months?
Julian Calendar?

Any idea how long the average human gestation period actually is?
Try 40 weeks.
 
Calendar months?
Julian Calendar?

Any idea how long the average human gestation period actually is?
Try 40 weeks.

I fail to to see what connection wogoga's posts have to do with proving that reincarnation is a trivial fact,fascinating as these history lessons and demographics are,they don't cut the mustard.
 
Thus a major short-term reason of Tiberius' death ...

... was that he was in his 70's and (by reputation) had become increasingly dissolute in his later years. How much longer do you imagine he'd have lived if Agrippina had kept her legs crossed that night?
 
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A further, a priori rather improbable coincidence: Exactly nine months passed from the death of Roman Emperor Tiberius (Nov. 16, 42 BC – March 16, AD 37) to the birth of Nero (15 Dec. 37 – 9 June 68).


At least according to a superficial study, Tiberius and Nero could make part of this reincarnation chain:

I'm sure that establishing such reincarnation chains will become a serious research field in the next decades.

To become and remain for some time Emperor of the Roman Empire was a very delicate task. Apart from intelligence, powers of self-assertion and a dose of unscrupulousness, having lived inside or at least close to imperial power centers was indispensable for being successful. Environment continuity and evolutionary relatedness are the major principles (natural laws) determining where human souls are reborn.

A further hypothesis:

*Birth dates of Constantine the Great, whose father was part of Aurelian's imperial bodyguard, vary from 270 to 288, "but most historians use c. 272". If Constantine actually is the reincarnation of Aurelian, who was murdered in September or October 275, then we can exclude a birth year before 275.

Especially from the religious-policy perspective, the Arelian-Constantine transition seems quite convincing:

"Later in 321, Constantine instructed that Christians and non-Christians should be united in observing the venerable day of the sun, referring to the sun-worship that Aurelian had established as an official cult. Furthermore, and long after his oft alleged conversion to Christianity, Constantine's coinage continued to carry the symbols of the sun."​
Cheers, Wolfgang
 
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