Regarding Franko...

[Q-Source]

According to the LD babies sleep so much, because they have a low tolerance to this Universe when they first arrive. They need to build up their resistance.

According to the LD?, I don´t think it is exclusive of your philosophy.
In general, we don´t remember anything before being self- aware. But... there are exceptions to this rule...

From a materialistic POV I think it is very strange. But from an LD POV it makes perfect sense. All living creatures are Gravitons, all living creatures must periodically cycle through lower energy states.

It is strange but it is also true. So, LD says that animals are also gravitons???

If they are inferior gravitons, in a lower level of evolution, it means that they can evolve over time, right?.
I have heard that before. It is equal to the karma and reincarnation stuff. But, in LD, is it possible to go back as an inferior graviton?

Can you control what happens in your dreams “Q”?

Ever have lucid dreams?

No, I haven´t experienced a lucid dream. Have you?

Q-S

 

[De_Bunk]

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[Franko]

Q-Source,

According to the LD?, I don´t think it is exclusive of your philosophy.
In general, we don´t remember anything before being self- aware. But... there are exceptions to this rule...

You are ALWAYS self-aware, from the moment you spring from the void, but your self-awareness is always increasing, or decreasing. Let’s say that at come given moment you have an amount of self-awareness equal to X. 10 years later you have self-awareness X + 25 (you’ve grown, you’ve evolved).

Now what happens is, when you cross a certain threshold, lets say you reach a self-awareness level of 100. At that point you may begin to “forget” stuff you were aware of at anything below SA: 20.

It is strange but it is also true. So, LD says that animals are also gravitons???

Yes.

If they are inferior gravitons, in a lower level of evolution, it means that they can evolve over time, right?.

Yes. Also recall that Superior Gravitons tend to control Inferior ones. Especially over time. (short time a lion controls you – long time you control lion).

I have heard that before. It is equal to the karma and reincarnation stuff. But, in LD, is it possible to go back as an inferior graviton?

I don’t want to confuse the issue, but there is a kind of reincarnation in LD. When you die here you are reincarnated in the Metaverse (assuming you are intrinsically good). If you are intrinsically evil you get dumped back into the Abyss (reincarnated there).

But it’s better I you don’t think of it as reincarnation. It’s just your Graviton traveling from one energy state to another. Depending on where you go your memories remain largely intact. Higher = metaverse, lower = the abyss.

No, I haven´t experienced a lucid dream. Have you?

Yeah. They are pretty cool.

 

[Franko]

De-Bungy,

Right...im getting bored here on this board...

Which explains why you are diligently following me around like a well trained dog?

 

[Franko]

Damn -- check it out ... I am an Illuminator!

And to think a few weeks ago I was merely a postard.

I guess I really am learning some new things on this board ...

 

[c4ts]

Like i didnt know already...

So scoot back off to Quake...dress up as Elf..and run around the house pretending your Gandalf or whoever...

But...your post about dreaming was beginningto look interesting...unitl i realised it was just another ridiculous troll thread..."Do sperm dream"...another question no one can ever answer....

Cant any of you see...all Franko does is pose questions that have no correct answer....

He is playing you all for fools...and you lot, who seem compelled to answer this moron....seem to think he is being all deep and meaningful...

He's laughing his a** off at the ridiculous things he posts here...and laughs even harder at the fools who are now trying to answer this bullsh*t.....

He can never answer your responses......he hasnt the faintest idea...he thinks up these posts and threads off the top of his head..

Right...im getting bored here on this board...

Its like watching a dog chase its own tail...after a while you wanna kick it up the a** for being so stupid...

De_Bunk

I can't imagine how anybody could keep that up for over 4000 posts and not start to believe it themselves.

 

[Franko]

I can't imagine how anybody could keep that up for over 4000 posts and not start to believe it themselves.

Yeah ... we all know that A-Theists don't believe ANYTHING ...

Whenever you want to provide evidence for "free willy". Apparently De-Bungler has been too busy arguing that elves and dwarves are goblins are more real then the Dungeonmaster.

 

[c4ts]

Yeah ... we all know that A-Theists don't believe ANYTHING ...

Whenever you want to provide evidence for "free willy". Apparently De-Bungler has been too busy arguing that elves and dwarves are goblins are more real then the Dungeonmaster.

Franko, the A-Theists don't believe you. I don't believe you. Very few posters believe you. The reason why is because: THIS IS A BOARD FOR SKEPTICS, SET UP BY THE RANDI FOUNDATION!! If you make extraordinary claims and do not provide extraordinary evidince, few people are going to believe you. It's like me registering to a Televangelist message board, using logic, and wondering why nobody understands my posts.

 

[Franko]

Franko, the A-Theists don't believe you. I don't believe you. Very few posters believe you. The reason why is because: THIS IS A BOARD FOR SKEPTICS, SET UP BY THE RANDI FOUNDATION!! If you make extraordinary claims and do not provide extraordinary evidence

Actually you A-Theists are the NONSKEPTICS!

First you assert that there is no evidence for God, but then you refuse to prove your claim, then you assert that you are not controlled by a higher power, but you refuse to prove your claim. The truth is your beliefs are based on nothing more then your pessimism and insane wishful thinking.

YOU are NO SKEPTIC. You are simply a cynic pretending to be a skeptic. If you want a place where no one will question your absurd unfounded religious beliefs I suggest you try … www.infidels.org

… few people are going to believe you.

Speak for YOURSELF A-Theist, or please cite your evidence that you speak for more than yourself here.

It's like me registering to a Televangelist message board, using logic, and wondering why nobody understands my posts.

What the in the hell are you babbling about you whiny pathetic little A-Theist nitwit???

 

[c4ts]

Actually you A-Theists are the NONSKEPTICS!

First you assert that there is no evidence for God, but then you refuse to prove your claim, then you assert that you are not controlled by a higher power, but you refuse to prove your claim. The truth is your beliefs are based on nothing more then your pessimism and insane wishful thinking.

YOU are NO SKEPTIC. You are simply a cynic pretending to be a skeptic. If you want a place where no one will question your absurd unfounded religious beliefs I suggest you try … www.infidels.org



Speak for YOURSELF A-Theist, or please cite your evidence that you speak for more than yourself here.



What the in the hell are you babbling about you whiny pathetic little A-Theist nitwit???

What is your basis for saying that I'm not a skeptic?

 

[c4ts]

So what about God? You said I was a cynic, not a skeptic. You can prove that. Here is what you need to do:

1) Provide evidence of me being cynical, but not skeptical
2) Prove that a skeptic cannot also be a cynic
3) Hope I don't provide any solid evidence to disprove your theory

 

[Franko]

c4ts:
What is your basis for saying that I'm not a skeptic?

You claim there is no evidence for God. Can you prove this claim?

Come on NON-SKEPTIC ... back up your claim. No double standards here ...

 

[c4ts]

You claim there is no evidence for God. Can you prove this claim?

Come on NON-SKEPTIC ... back up your claim. No double standards here ...

What double standards? You made two claims and you're asking me to back one so you will back the other. How about I make a claim and back it, and you support the claim you've already made. Would you prefer that?

 

[Aardvark_DK]

Why the hell do people keep discussing anything with Franko? Why not just find yourself a nice brick wall to bang your head against?

 

[c4ts]

Why the hell do people keep discussing anything with Franko? Why not just find yourself a nice brick wall to bang your head against?

Some of us need stress relief.

 

[Franko]

What double standards?

Your double standard.

Look, there is no evidence that when I flip this coin it will land “Heads” up. I guess according to you that means it will definitely land “Tails” up?

There is no evidence that X + Y = 17. I suppose that according to you that means that X + Y = 17 is FALSE – definitely NOT TRUE?

That’s the same thing you are doing with “God” and you’re a-Theism, and I realize that guys like YOU and Aardvark really really hate it when I point out how foolish and absurd your “Logic” is.

If you don’t like being exposed as the stupid nitwit that you obvious are perhaps you should run along so you can be with your fellow Religious fanatics: www.infidels.org

You made two claims and you're asking me to back one so you will back the other. How about I make a claim and back it, and you support the claim you've already made. Would you prefer that?

The only claim that I am making is that You don’t have “free will”, and you have NO EVIDENCE that there is NO EVIDENCE for God. Your claim is simply insane wishful thinking and self-delusion on your part. I realize that you like being insane, and therefore you will refuse to provide any evidence for your beliefs.

Just what we need around here, another A-Theist that wants to demonstrate what it is NOT to be a SKEPTIC.

Aardvark whined:
Why the hell do people keep discussing anything with Franko? Why not just find yourself a nice brick wall to bang your head against?

Aardyvark, refuses to provide a scrap of evidence for any of the nonsense he believes either. You two make a nice couple
…

 

[Aardvark_DK]

Woohoo! I finally got a Franko nickname! (Not the most imaginative, but I'm thankful for what I get.)

 

[Franko]

Woohoo! I finally got a Franko nickname! (Not the most imaginative, but I'm thankful for what I get.)

Enjoy it pissant. Soon you will cease to exist.

 

[c4ts]

Your double standard.

Look, there is no evidence that when I flip this coin it will land “Heads” up. I guess according to you that means it will definitely land “Tails” up?

There is no evidence that X + Y = 17. I suppose that according to you that means that X + Y = 17 is FALSE – definitely NOT TRUE.

That’s the same thing you are doing with “God” and you’re a-Theism, and I realize that guys like YOU and Aardvark really really hate it when I point out how foolish and absurd your “Logic” is.

If you don’t like being exposed as the stupid nitwit that you obvious are perhaps you should run along so you can be with your fellow Religious fanatics: www.infidels.org



The only claim that I am making is that You don’t have “free will”, and you have NO EVIDENCE that there is NO EVIDENCE for God. Your claim is simply insane wishful thinking and self-delusion on your part. I realize that you like being insane, and therefore you will refuse to provide any evidence for your beliefs.

Just what we need around here, another A-Theist that wants to demonstrate what it is NOT to be a SKEPTIC.

Franko, your statement was that I was a cynic, and therefore only pretending to be a skeptic because I can't be both at the same time. That's a positive statement and it can be proven. I EVEN SHOWED YOU ONE WAY OF DOING IT! Now prove it, since you are the one who made the claim in the first place. You have made an unsupported argument against me. I merely ask that you support it. Stop brining up irrelevant things like "is there a God," because God or not, you're still not answering me. And if I say "yes Franko, I believe you" so you can get on to explaining your statement that I am not a skeptic, you can just use the instance where I said "yes Franko, I believe you" as evidince against me. You have about 2 posts left before I give up on you. Be assured that when people give up on you, it's not always becuase you're right and they're wrong.

 

[Franko]

Franko, your statement was that I was a cynic, and therefore only pretending to be a skeptic because I can't be both at the same time. That's a positive statement and it can be proven. I EVEN SHOWED YOU ONE WAY OF DOING IT! Now prove it, since you are the one who made the claim in the first place.

You want me to prove that I believe YOU are a cynic?

Other then the fact that I am claiming to believe you are a cynic how do you expect me to prove it?

You have made an unsupported argument against me.

No it is supported. I really DO believe you are an idiot cynic and complete and total brainwashed religious fanatic. Do you really believe that you can prove I don’t believe it?

Ohh, I can’t wait …

I merely ask that you support it.

You are an A-Theist.

You believe that you have magic “free willy” powers which you cannot prove.

Once you pretend that you control your own Destiny it is relatively easy for you to claim that there is no evidence for god.

Then you make the claim that you will cease to exist when you die – based on no evidence.

Then you make the claim that existence is meaningless – based on no evidence.

Then you make the really ridiculous claim that A-Theists are just as moral as Theists! Hehehe! Hysterical!

Stop brining up irrelevant things like "is there a God," because God or not, you're still not answering me. And if I say "yes Franko, I believe you" so you can get on to explaining your statement that I am not a skeptic, you can just use the instance where I said "yes Franko, I believe you" as evidence against me. You have about 2 posts left before I give up on you.

Ohh you are hooked now little Graviton. I bet you won’t be able to resist me if you try.

Be assured that when people give up on you, it's not always becuase you're right and they're wrong.

No … ultimately, that is exactly the reason. But in the short term it is because A-Theists are spineless cowards and adherents the ultimate Fear-Based Religion.