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Randi and O'Reilly?

Got to give kudos to old forehead boy for jumping down Montel and Sylvias throats and breaking out thier backsides like poison oak.
 
Just a quick note..

O'Reilly contacted us at TAM, and Randi WOULD have gone on the show.

Randi is under no illusion as to what the show is really like. However, O'Reilly was going to be taking Sylvia down, and that helps our cause. Strange bedfellows? Yes. But in this case, it would have been worth it. In the end, Bill decided not to have Randi on.
 
Just a quick note..

O'Reilly contacted us at TAM, and Randi WOULD have gone on the show.

Randi is under no illusion as to what the show is really like. However, O'Reilly was going to be taking Sylvia down, and that helps our cause. Strange bedfellows? Yes. But in this case, it would have been worth it. In the end, Bill decided not to have Randi on.

So is this the end of this particular window of opportunity? Not "delayed", but "cancelled"?
 
Just a quick note..

O'Reilly contacted us at TAM, and Randi WOULD have gone on the show.

Randi is under no illusion as to what the show is really like. However, O'Reilly was going to be taking Sylvia down, and that helps our cause. Strange bedfellows? Yes. But in this case, it would have been worth it. In the end, Bill decided not to have Randi on.

Thanks for that, Jeff. I have no doubt Mr. Randi knew exactly what he was doing, and had fully weighed the pros and cons of appearing. But I'm still kinda glad he didn't make it on. :relieved:
 
So is this the end of this particular window of opportunity? Not "delayed", but "cancelled"?

As it stands right now:

We don't expect to hear back from O'Reilly.

Anderson Cooper said he'd reschedule.. but that was before Larry King agreed to have Randi on tonight. Since they're on the same network, I wonder what interplay there has been. Unless something dramatic happens, my gut feeling is that this is the last appearance we'll have.

We may, however, create something dramatic. ;)
 
I will agree that going on the Bill show is useless, He is pretty much a Mad man, unable to see anything beyond his subjective reality, however if there is anyone who could make that man turn red (or even purple) I would love to see it. However, given the violent nature of the frustrated theist, I fear for Mr. Randi's life.
 
So is there a tread about Randi's appearance on Larry King? I missed it, and then stayed up until 2 AM and sat through some drivel about Anna Nicole's baby's daddy to see him! He did an awesome job!
 
Thanks Reno!

And to think I could have waited and had the whole interview on the forum!

Well, at least I am aware that Anna Nicole's baby daddy really just wants to be a part of the baby's life and wants NO PART of the child's wealth. RIGHT.
 
Thanks Reno!

And to think I could have waited and had the whole interview on the forum!

Well, at least I am aware that Anna Nicole's baby daddy really just wants to be a part of the baby's life and wants NO PART of the child's wealth. RIGHT.
This might be derailing, and I was thinking of starting a separate thread on this topic anyway, and maybe I will...but...I don't know if being in this kids life will enrich this guy or not but I doubt it'd do too much for him financially. I mean, I don't see how he's in this for the money. I am on this guys' side, assumig he's telling the truth, and the fact that Anna Nicole won't take the test says to me that he probably is telling the truth. If it's his kid how can she possibly justify not letting him be part of the child's life? It's ironic that that there are so many kids whose fathers could have all the access they want but they don't care and then this guy comes along and wants access but can't have it.
 
I wonder if he'd be so desperate for access if she still lived in a trailer park and was still paid in single dollar bills.
 
O'Reilly has admitted* that what he does on his show is "an act." I've personally observed him freely using logical falacies and intellectual dishonesty. His show is not live, but heavily edited to partisan objectives. If Randi and O'Reilly stick to what a cruel fraud Sylvia Browne is, Randi will do fine. If, however, Randi make statements that are out of step with the Republican party line, then O'Reilly will stop at nothing to destroy him.

My opinion, based on actually watching O'Reilly's show.

Hmm, do you think maybe there's a chance he was being facetious when he referred to his performance as an "act" and called himself "effete" while on The Colbert Report? Because, if you really think that amounts to an admission that he's a phony, I might also like to point out to you that Jonathan Swift was not actually admitting to cannibalism when he wrote A Modest Proposal and Lou Costello actually did know Who was on first.

Of course, your "Republican party line" comment puzzles me since, as you do watch the show, you're aware of how many positions he has that are in direct opposition to that "party line" and just how often he criticizes President Bush and defends Democrats when they're being unfairly attacked. Certainly you've witnessed that on many occasions as you sat on the couch wearing your Factor Gear with your 'No Spin Zone' pennant in hand.
 
Where the interview could go wrong (if it ever happens), is if Bill goes on one of his "secular progressives are ruining the country" bit. Forget his "republican" tendencies. He's conservative, a loudmouth, and not really running a no-spin zone, but he's not a shill for the Bush administration.
 
With friends like these...

Bill O'Reilly is a deliberate liar and a demagogue, both qualities that are diametrically opposed to our values as skeptics. While I understand why Randi would choose appear on such a show (and I don't entirely disagree), I nevertheless think JREF should tread carefully in associating with such a character.

And I won't even go into the sexual harrassment suit...

That's interesting. I would say that shunning a person because their political viewpoint doesn't agree with yours is diametrically opposed to my values as a skeptic, but then, what do I know--I have so glaringly few posts on the JREF Forum.

Of course, as a civilized and erudite community, we can all agree that resorting to personal attacks is reprehensible and demonstrates desperation on the part of the accuser. Oh wait...
 
I for one would love to see JR go on Colbert or The Daily Show.

Randi vs. Colbert would be simultaneously hilarious and educational.
 

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