Merged Rally to Restore Sanity

Jeff Corey said:
For the sake of sanity. For the people who were there to tell their experiences as was requested last week?

I spelt his name wrong. i know, but can't edit it.
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You thought a thread in Politics would have some relationship to sanity?

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marplots said:
Even when Hitler is touted as the embodiment of evil, I find myself wondering if he might have had a dog. If he loved that dog and grieved when it died.
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Hitler tested his cyanide pills on his dog to see what effect they had before he took them himself.
 
Piscivore said:
What has that got to do with Rushdie, who is still alive and still making public appearances after 21 years under this fatwa with "a high probability that it would be carried out"?
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All probabilities go to zero or one after the fact. And Rushdie took extraordinary measures to change the odds. Surely you aren't suggesting that it's not a problem because extraordinary measures kept him alive, are you? Or are you saying that he wouldn't have faced any significant risk even if he hadn't taken such extraordinary measures?
 
Ziggurat said:
I never said it was. Does your agreement with the premise of the rally and satisfaction with its general execution mean that it should be immune to any and all criticism? I should hope not.
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Good, because I never said that.

What significance do you think this Cat Stevens thing implies?
 
Ziggurat said:
All probabilities go to zero or one after the fact.
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I thought that the fatwa was still on, and this was a big issue because Yusef speaking against it would be a big help in getting it removed? Isn't that was was said? This isn't "after the fact" at all, in that context.

Or are you saying that he wouldn't have faced any significant risk even if he hadn't taken such extraordinary measures?
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That's impossible to say. The one guy that tried blew himself up, I don't have any idea if that, or any of the measures Rushdie has taken have influenced all the people that don't seem to have tried. I'm pretty sure Yusef hasn't.

I do know that Rushdie doesn't seem to think he's in much danger now, irrespective of Yusef's opinion.
 
Piscivore said:
I thought that the fatwa was still on
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The issuer is dead. But to the extent that it's still on, then the fact that he isn't dead yet doesn't mean the threat is gone.

and this was a big issue because Yusef speaking against it would be a big help in getting it removed? Isn't that was was said?
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Not by me. Unless Yusuf can speak with the dead, I don't think he's got any influence in the matter. He might, however, influence people's willingness to carry it out, or even to view such death sentences as acceptable.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Hitler tested his cyanide pills on his dog to see what effect they had before he took them himself.
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How did it smell? http://www.skepdic.com/emdr.html
But seriously, this was the most caucasian rally I ever was at. The few black people were mostly vendors of tshirts.
Other large gatherings I was at like that were the Newport Jazz Festival riot (1960) and the Ft. Lauderdale Spring Break riot in 1961. Drunken Dartmouth students throwing quarts of beer at cops.
I saw that and recalled Maverick's advice, "He who turns and runs away, lives to survive another day."
 
MaGZ said:
How do you know it’s not just Hollywood special effects created by the Jews?
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Probably because I'm not insane and I have an inkling of how special effects work. Oh, and I'm not insane.
 
shawmutt said:
I was being sarcastic. I don't give a **** that he was there. Didn't even register as anything other than a humorous duel of train songs. If three minutes with Cat Yusef is all folks can come up with as an insult to the rally, the rally organizers did a pretty damn good job.
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It didn't bother me personally either, I just thought it an odd choice, given that it would be an obvious target of criticism.
 
Piscivore said:
Yes. At one time my life was consumed with such thoughts.
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Fine. You've convinced me that if you were a public figure, and if you had gone public with these murderous wishes, and if you had not denounced these wishes in the intervening years, that you too would be a less than optimal choice to appear at a rally promoting reason and moderation.
 
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Ziggurat said:
I think John Stewart shouldn't have given him this platform.
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Exactly what platform was he given?

He didn't come onto the stage and make a speech or proclamation, he sang a song he recorded almost 40 years ago. Hell, it wasn't even the full song considering the Ozzy interruption.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Hitler tested his cyanide pills on his dog to see what effect they had before he took them himself.
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Blondi, the German Shepherd, was indeed the guinea pig used to test Dr. Stumpfegger's cyanide capsule. Blondi's four puppies were also killed in the Reich Chancellery garden.
 
Oh, I thought it was a real German Shepherd called Blondi, close friend and occasional masseuse to the fuhrer.
 
Denver said:
Beck COULD handle this gracefully. Something like:

"Jon Stewart is our modern day Samuel Clemens. It looks like his gathering was a lot of fun, and we could all use more sanity in these times. Now, lets look at the real state of the country..."

I'm guessing he won't go that route.
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Wildy said:
But I think we all know that we'll hear about another conspiracy theory from him.
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Glenn Beck just surprised me.

I heard him speaking of the rally today. For the most part, he only had good things to say about it, and about Jon Stewart. In fact, he said Stewart's ending speech was very good (and added, its basically the same thing he (Beck) had been saying, except that he (Beck) wraps his message in God).

His main points of contention (that I recall) were that Colbert was an embarrassment, that they only introduced Cat Stevens by his first name (Yosef) but left off the last (Islam), and that overall the comedy portion did not go very well, though he also mentioned that kind of venue is a difficult configuration for comedy anyway.
 
Denver said:
Glenn Beck just surprised me.

I heard him speaking of the rally today. For the most part, he only had good things to say about it, and about Jon Stewart. In fact, he said Stewart's ending speech was very good (and added, its basically the same thing he (Beck) had been saying, except that he (Beck) wraps his message in God).

His main points of contention (that I recall) were that Colbert was an embarrassment, that they only introduced Cat Stevens by his first name (Yosef) but left off the last (Islam), and that overall the comedy portion did not go very well, though he also mentioned that kind of venue is a difficult configuration for comedy anyway.
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You listen to Glenn Beck?? :eek:

Seriously, did he mention anything about the size of the crowd (especially relative to his own rally)?
 
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