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R. Crumb's Book of Genesis

sackett

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Yesterday I saw a copy of Robert Crumb's Book of Genesis in Borders. I had a quick look into it, the same way I skimmed it when parts were published in the New Yorker. Then I put it back on the shelf; didn't even check the price. Well, why bother? I sure wouldn't shell out hardcover bucks for it.

The trouble with it is that Crumb just took the KJ Version's language and drew a lot of his obsessively detailed cartoons under and around it. The result is not very different from an illustrated "stories from the Bible for young people," the kind of stuff well-meaning Sunday school teachers have been shoveling out ever since printing was invented.

Years ago, Crumb cartoonized some parts of Boswell's London Journal, and it made entertaining reading -- for the obvious reason that the language is fun, lively, and informative -- and historical, that is, the events really occurred. (Or if they didn't quite, Bozzy is still a great read.)

But Genesis? What on earth for?*

Has anybody else seen this? Any reactions?

* To sell books, obviously. But aside from that?
 
I bought it when it came out and really enjoyed it. But, I have a bias as a fan of his work.

In the introduction Crumb talks about how he had initially intended to do a comedic, Crumb, version. But after reading it, he decided it was weird and ridiculous enough on its own so he did a verbatim adaptation.

I can see why it would not be appealing to some, but I rather liked the fact that he didn't alter anything. Without seeing his comedic version, I kind of think that him doing a comedic/Crumb version is more blasé than doing a straight version.

Anyway, I really dug it. I think the art's wonderful and the combination of Crumb's personal weirdness that is explicit in his style and the ridiculousness of Genesis made it worthwhile for me.
 
I bought it when it came out and really enjoyed it. But, I have a bias as a fan of his work.

In the introduction Crumb talks about how he had initially intended to do a comedic, Crumb, version. But after reading it, he decided it was weird and ridiculous enough on its own so he did a verbatim adaptation.

I can see why it would not be appealing to some, but I rather liked the fact that he didn't alter anything. Without seeing his comedic version, I kind of think that him doing a comedic/Crumb version is more blasé than doing a straight version.

Anyway, I really dug it. I think the art's wonderful and the combination of Crumb's personal weirdness that is explicit in his style and the ridiculousness of Genesis made it worthwhile for me.

Same with me, but I seem to remember having to bone up on some new software so I had to shelve it. I can't read two books at once, or even one immediately after the other, and it's worse when one the books has to be some sort of a manual. Otherwise, when I try to remember a procedure or when inputting a line of code, I wind up using a "begat" when I needed a "goto".
 
Zack, you get a pass because you like Crumb. I used to like his work too, but I feel that he's gone downhill since Pete the Plumber. Or maybe R. Crumb is that great rarity, an early enthusiasm I've outgrown.

Crumb's Genesis raises a question: Are comics as a genre more literature than they are graphics? Do the words perhaps matter a lot more than the drawing? I ask because the whole Genesis venture flops for me because the text is so tedious. Yes, it's ridiculous too, but I can't see Crumb doing more than solemnly illustrating it, and the comedy is just plain absent.

Robert C. is no scholar -- hell, he's not an intellectual of any kind -- and I fear that in this case he just doesn't bring much of anything to the table.

At least he draws better than Aline.
 
Zack, you get a pass because you like Crumb. I used to like his work too, but I feel that he's gone downhill since Pete the Plumber. Or maybe R. Crumb is that great rarity, an early enthusiasm I've outgrown.

That's fair enough. I tend to agree, but I think that you can make that argument about most creative types after they've hit the high water marks in their careers. I often feel that way about Frank Miller, though I still devour most anything he produces.

Crumb's Genesis raises a question: Are comics as a genre more literature than they are graphics? Do the words perhaps matter a lot more than the drawing? I ask because the whole Genesis venture flops for me because the text is so tedious. Yes, it's ridiculous too, but I can't see Crumb doing more than solemnly illustrating it, and the comedy is just plain absent.

I don't think so. I mean, I think comics certainly are a brand of literature. But the uniqueness of comics is that, when done right, the art and the words get equal billing. Without sequential art, words are just prose. You need both working simultaneously, and together, to make comics. When one dominates the other (usually words) the work tends to suffer.

I can definitely see your point about the text and the tedium. I felt that quite a bit, too. What made up for it, for me, was the art. When I found the text to be too ridiculous or heavy or tedious or whatever other negative adjective, I found myself focusing more on Crumb's art.

It was the art in the Noah myth that helped bring me back in when I started to slip away. There are parts during the Noah myth where I found some of his panels to be particularly haunting--especially with the bits that talk about the wickedness of man.

Scholar he may not be, but where I thought the book shined was his depiction of the bleak moments. I got a real feeling of desperation from the his figures and their expressions during scenes of warfare, rape, circumcision, and sacrifice. In some cases there is a feeling of out right insanity of the moment (wholly, justified, of course.)

Where I think the book suffered is the story telling. The book itself is poorly written and sort of a cobbled together mess of myths and legends, as a result a verbatim comic book version brings that same baggage. This is where I think Crumb can and should have taken some creative liberties. There is rarely a flow to the story at all. Every now and then he sneaks in some sequential story telling, but for the most part it's several panels drawn on a page frantically hopping from one moment to the next and the reader has to really rely on the gutters and their familiarity with the source material to piece together a cogent story. Again, that's not entirely Crumb's fault--sort of a garbage in, garbage out situation.

I think for Crumb the comedy is the overall story and it's insanity. It's a sort of a black humor. It's obvious the joke is not in the dialog and in the text. But Crumb does go out of his way to put his typical spin on the character designs and, in a lot of cases, I think really captures the bizarreness and insanity of the stories being told. As I read it, the joke, as it were, is on the believer or the individual who reads this to get warm and fuzzy feelings. The comedy is meta-textual instead of the style of, say, Mr. Natural.

Robert C. is no scholar -- hell, he's not an intellectual of any kind -- and I fear that in this case he just doesn't bring much of anything to the table.

Yeah, a scholar and intellectual, he is not. At least he doesn't give that impression in any interview or documentary that I've seen.

For me, the good definitely outweighed the bad and I enjoyed it. But, like I said, I can absolutely see why it would not work for everyone. Particularly with a verbatim translation of already tedious source material.


Sorry for the rather long-winded response. :boxedin:
 
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Wouldn't that have been in lieu of a "gosub"? :)

DAMMIT!!! And I compiled that thing back in 2002!! I'm gonna have to find the floppy I saved it to!

...and this is the reason I got out of programming.
 
Zack writes very well for a (snicker!) COMIX FAN!

I can only think of one extended comic book that really ranks as literate story-telling, and that's Maus. There we have meaningful narrative combined with surreal drawing -- and it's probably unique, so no wonder I respond to it.

As for Crumb's art: I think Tatsuya Ishida of Sinfest can outdraw him any day. Too bad Tat doesn't work with a writer, and I sure & hell don't mean the authors of Genesis!
 

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