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Quotes From The Koran

PygmyPlaidGiraffe said:


I am inclined to request, as Thai did, for evidence and sources.
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Following a lesson on the monotheistic faiths, Saudi Arabian schoolchildren are asked to discuss "With what types of weapons should Muslims arm themselves against the Jews?" That question is part of an official textbook for 8th grade students which also emphasizes that "Jews and Christians were cursed by Allah and turned into apes and pigs," and that "The hour [the Day of Judgment] will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them."

MEMRI reports that "the textbook interprets the conversation between the prophet and his companion as follows: the most important activity is Jihad for the sake of Allah and the convocation of Allah's religion on this earth." By ninth grade, students are ready for "The Promise of the Stone and the Tree" - the story of Abu Hurayra, one of the prophet's companions who quoted the prophet as saying: "The hour [the Day of Judgment] will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. A Jew will [then] hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will call upon the Muslim: 'O Muslim, O slave of Allah! There is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!' - except for the gharqad tree, for it is one of the trees of the Jews."
http://memri.org/bin/media.cgi?ID=39202
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We are proud that they define us as someone who strikes terror into the heart of the enemies of Allah and our enemies [a paraphrase of a Koranic verse], but not according to the definition they [the Americans] want. America wants us to define terror according to its criteria. The American definition of terror is that anyone who resists America's colonialist and religious interests is a terrorist…"

"The Saudis maintain that the Arabian peninsula is the resting place of the lions from which the leaders emerged. Those who confront America in Afghanistan, Chechnya, and Kashmir are the cubs of those lions. [The Saudis] who lead the Jihad in the world left without asking the permission of the rulers or the world. They broke through the barriers to leave. They run in pursuit of death, while George Bush and his administration fled the White House, at a certain point, when they were targeted."

"The Saudis believe that the glory of the [Islamic] nation appeared when our Prophet taught us the industry of death – when he taught us how to create death. Then life became cheap in our eyes… When one of the sons of our nation is killed, he says: 'I won,' and the master of the Ka'aba swears that he had won. This we see as the industry of death. We in Saudi society and in other Islamic societies have finally realized that this is the right path to tread in order to deal with today's deadly strategic weapons. If America has intercontinental missiles and bombs, then our bombs are the Jihad fighters, whom America has called 'suicide attackers' and we call 'martyrs.' We will develop them because we see them as a strategic weapon
http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.c...abia&ID=SP40002
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So, a couple surveys done in the middle east means that the majority of muslims are fundamentalist?

how much of the muslim population does the middle east make up? I think your sample is a bit too small to be representative.
 
Baker said:
Muslim militants are practicing mainstream Islam. They are not an extremist minority. Terrorists have not corrupted their religion. Their religion itself is corrupt. Al-Qaeda is not the enemy. They are but a symptom of a much more sinister and widespread disease.
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Christian militants are practicing mainstream Christianity. They are not an extremist minority (note that they hold the Presidency). Terrorists have not corrupted their religion. Their religion itself is corrupt. The KKK is not the enemy. They are but a symptom of a much more sinister and widespread disease.

Yes... called RELIGION.
 
Yahzi said:

Christian militants are practicing mainstream Christianity. They are not an extremist minority (note that they hold the Presidency). Terrorists have not corrupted their religion. Their religion itself is corrupt. The KKK is not the enemy. They are but a symptom of a much more sinister and widespread disease.

Yes... called RELIGION.
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I provided examples you have just provided your personal opinion.
 
Ah, yes. You never hear of Christians blowing up abortion clinics, or Christian hate groups...

Oh wait, yes you do.

As for NEW TESTAMENT quotes which paint Jesus Christ as an ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, they're plentiful.

Matthew 10

34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law--
36a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'[5]
37"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
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Ahh, family values. Love your children and your parents and your family, but if you don't love Jesus more, you may as well be a heathen. Not only that, but a fine quote for "kill yourself for Christ" in the same package. Too easy.

Of course, then we have the NEW TESTAMENT's take on slavery. Jesus was ALL FOR IT.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_bibl.htm#menu
http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_bibl2.htm

But, that's what you get when you play "My BUY-BULL is better than your BUY-BULL."

I find that both religions are equally full of lame-brained nitwits.
 
Most of these quotes are quite mild if you read the entire chapters even if they weren’t they don’t compare to the Koran
 
If the only thing that makes Christianity palettable to you is "how much better it is than Islam", who am I to judge? The worse you feel you have to make Islam out to be, the baser and more ugly your own religion probably is. When you get all the way down to "rolling in their own filth and liking it", then we all can say "At least Christians don't go rolling in their own filth exactly[/i[ like the followers of Islam; they have their own style."

Finally, if you imagine the Bible is only the "New Testament", and nothing written in the "Old Testament" counts, then feel free to rip out the half of the book you don't agree with. Go right ahead. You can even buy your own BUYBULL with the OT portion ripped out for you.
 
evildave said:
If the only thing that makes Christianity palettable to you is "how much better it is than Islam", who am I to judge? The worse you feel you have to make Islam out to be, the baser and more ugly your own religion probably is. When you get all the way down to "rolling in their own filth and liking it", then we all can say "At least Christians don't go rolling in their own filth exactly[/i[ like the followers of Islam; they have their own style."

Finally, if you imagine the Bible is only the "New Testament", and nothing written in the "Old Testament" counts, then feel free to rip out the half of the book you don't agree with. Go right ahead. You can even buy your own BUYBULL with the OT portion ripped out for you.
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We have been over this all week when these Christian verses Islam debates begin simply read the rest of the thread and the other threads on this topic.
I keep explaining this just to have someone try to bring it up again because they haven’t bothered to read all of the thread.
 
What debate?

You want to bash Islam, go to it. I'm sure there are many Christians who are better at it than yourself, but if you need the practice to make yourslelf feel better, feel free to. Everything bad you could say about some fruity flavors of Islam is of course just as applicable to some fruity flavors of Christianity, so knock yourself out.

Just remember, engaging in this "bashing" behavior makes YOU look far more petty and base than your target. Seeing how petty believers can be is helpful to cure people of their religious afflictions. So have fun. I'm sure every 'stupid' verse you quote from the 'Koran' (a book I'm sure you've read from cover to cover to gain every bit of context necessary to judge these quotes) helps you feel more validated in some small way.

Not that I should talk.
 
See previous reply about "slavery". The Bible was used extensively to support it during the 19th century.

As for the "war on women", look no further than the Southern Baptist convention.

But I see you still can't say anything nice about Christianity based on its own merits.

If only hatred of Islamic people can make Christianity seem palettable to you, why should such a hateful doctrine seem palettable to anyone else?

I highly recommend you visit http://www.religioustolerance.org/ and try to take in some more articles.

It's a fine site, full of much interesting material.
 
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