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Quote of the week:

Oh, Snow's more likely moderate Republican, true. I've been getting into arguments pretty persistently with people who tell me that McCain isn't a Republican though, and that's making me irate (espically since I've taken to mentally chanting the Neccessary and Proper clause.)

The Foundrs expected Constitutional debate to center around the meaning of the 'necessary and proper' clause. Unfortunately, people like Snowe skip that, and warp the 'commerce' and 'general welfare' clauses.
 
R U a defender of Olympia Snowe?

or do you just dislike Earl?

No, it was just a lame, unfunny comment and and an insult about the level of a 7th grader. To call that puerile insult a "quote of the week" shows a remarkable degree of approval for things that agree with your point of view, whether or not they are funny or original.
 
I figured the quote of the week would come from "What Up! - By Michael Steele"
 
No, it was just a lame, unfunny comment and and an insult about the level of a 7th grader. To call that puerile insult a "quote of the week" shows a remarkable degree of approval for things that agree with your point of view, whether or not they are funny or original.

What's your beef with James Madison? Or do you just dislike Galileo?
 
What's your beef with James Madison? Or do you just dislike Galileo?
My beef is with people who make juvenile insults and with those who think such juvenile insults are clever. And that's all. I have not publically taken a political stance on this issue.
 
The Foundrs expected Constitutional debate to center around the meaning of the 'necessary and proper' clause. Unfortunately, people like Snowe skip that, and warp the 'commerce' and 'general welfare' clauses.

Errr.. Not exactly.

First off, I find it generally presumptuous to know what the Founders had in mind, and I do admit I am of the school of thought that now entering 222 years after it was written, some liberties can be taken to ensure it's relevance.

(The debate there really focuses on some, and where should we stop, etc. etc. etc.)

But. The general drift of the federal government (I've heard 1933-now, but some say 1914-now) is generally to expand it's powers by a) the two clauses you mention, but much more often b) carrot and stick approaches

(i.e they give you money if you follow them, and give you no money (And in fact, no may mean much less) if you don't.)

This is why taxation (and restricting it) is a bit of a sticking point for Republicans and Libertarians, who mostly correctly guess that with less money, the government cannot function as is and must return some control and functions to the states (Devolving).

So by that respect you may be right - except that the Republicans also tend to expand hugely the police powers and moral legislation abilities of the state and the Democrats play along (.. aren't exactly very good at that reducing government intervention into the bedroom.)

And on the other hand, something like this would never really happen in the states and is 'right' to be passed (see the recent gay marriage bans, which pass in almost every state it's put to a vote. Maine and Washington are deciding this year to follow or not. For a successful issue: See civil rights.)

Generally speaking, simplifying the debate to 'federal government attempting to push issue bad' ignores a lot of factors that make things more complex when attempting to pass through states (think of 50 different versions of medicare, for example) or less desirable.
 
"Senator Olympia Snowe wouldn't know what the U.S. Constitution said if James Madison stood in front of her and read it word for word."
That would be so cool, to have a zombie read the Constitution to me. Why does Senator Snow get all the fun? :(


:zombie:
 

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