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Quotable Albert Einstein

PygmyPlaidGiraffe

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Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.

Eistein's name is dropped by a lot of people, a lot of interest groups, and a lot of people claim Einstein was going to read their thesis (on the existance of Atlantis, for eg).



This
Snopes link demonstrates how Einstein unwillingly becomes a poster boy for IDers, Creationists, apologists, etc.

I want to know what is the source for the above quote. So much that is attributed to Einstein does not hold up to scrutiny. I have doubts that Einstein made the above statement quoted so often by the religiously oriented. In fact, are any of the A. Einstein quotes that are attributed to him, actually his words?

I wonder... I consider Einstein a comtempory figure, but he appears to have already become a myth... how did that happen in such a short time?


if Einstein did say this, was he attempting to say that faith and rational thinking need not be so exclusive and isolated from each other, in a perpetual false dichotomy? or is my interpretation way off?
 
My office neighbor has a poster showing the "wild hair" Einstein, with the quote "Imagination is more important than knowledge". I have wondered about this one.

Snopes also has expose's on the alleged "Chief Seattle" quote, as well as "Desiderata", which was apparently penned by a lawyer from Terra Haute, Indiana.

The "Einstein Myth" is naturally compatible with certain pseudo-scientific disciplines mainly because of the way the popular misstatements of his theories appeal to the romantic sensibilities. "All things are relative", (which is not even remotely what Einstein discovered) is one step removed from a total denial of scientifically discoverable truth.

Unfortunately, high-school physics in America remains fairly authority-based, and posters of Einstein, accompanied by presentations of "Einstein said..." can only lead to hero-worship, which is detrimental to understanding and further scientific progress.
 
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
[Albert Einstein, 1954, from "Albert Einstein: The Human Side", edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton
University Press]
 
"excuse me, could you please pass me der salt?"

-- Einstien, overheard at Ben's Eats, Princeton, N.J., Dec. 1948
 
Iacchus said:
That's a good quote. ;) Does that make Einstein out to be a dualist?

No, Buddhist

“Albert Einstein quote: “If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs, it would be Buddhism.”

'Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity' – Einstein”

Einstein said, "If I’m compelled to select a world religion or an international religion, I would select Buddhism." We must examine the profundity of his statement and work together in harmony, for nowadays even the learned scholars of the East remain unaware of this. That is why I must emphasize the whole system of Buddhist philosophy.
 
Pahansiri said:
No, Buddhist

“Albert Einstein quote: “If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs, it would be Buddhism.”

'Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity' – Einstein”

Einstein said, "If I’m compelled to select a world religion or an international religion, I would select Buddhism." We must examine the profundity of his statement and work together in harmony, for nowadays even the learned scholars of the East remain unaware of this. That is why I must emphasize the whole system of Buddhist philosophy.

Your third quote is a little confusing. Who said, "We must examine the profundity of his statement and work together in harmony...?"
 
Hardenbergh said:
Your third quote is a little confusing. Who said, "We must examine the profundity of his statement and work together in harmony...?"

yes, I have to look deeper into the origin and context of when he made this quote.
 
This isn't exactly quoteable because it is so long but it's good.

"The human mind is not capable of grasping the universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But, the child notes a definate pattern in the arrangement of the books-a mysterious order which it does not comprehend and only dimly suspects." Albert Einstein
 
Pahansiri said:
No, Buddhist

“Albert Einstein quote: “If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs, it would be Buddhism.”

'Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful unity' – Einstein”

Einstein said, "If I’m compelled to select a world religion or an international religion, I would select Buddhism." We must examine the profundity of his statement and work together in harmony, for nowadays even the learned scholars of the East remain unaware of this. That is why I must emphasize the whole system of Buddhist philosophy.

I like very much those quotes :D
 
PygmyPlaidGiraffe said:
Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.

I want to know what is the source for the above quote. So much that is attributed to Einstein does not hold up to scrutiny. I have doubts that Einstein made the above statement quoted so often by the religiously oriented.

I found a very nice site with quotes by Einstein about science and religion with references and the full texts, which is great since all these oneliners are so often taken out of an important context.

http://condor.stcloudstate.edu/~lesikar/einstein/

The quote in question is taken from this article:

http://condor.stcloudstate.edu/~lesikar/einstein/Einstein2b.html

Next time a fundy shows you that quote, provide the context, since there's much therein that doesn't fit with fundy beliefs.
 
"Technological progress frequently results in more unemployment rather than in an easing of the burden of work for all. The profit motive, in conjunction with competition among capitalists, is responsible for an instability in the accumulation and utilization of capital which leads to increasingly severe depressions. Unlimited competition leads to a huge waste of labor, and to that crippling of the social consciousness of individuals which I mentioned before.
This crippling of individuals I consider the worst evil of capitalism. Our whole educational system suffers from this evil. An exaggerated competitive attitude is inculcated into the student, who is trained to worship acquisitive success as a preparation for his future career."
Albert E.
 

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