Question about Memory Storages?

[Kumar]

Yo! I'm one too. Worked out the motor bit later, heheh.

This latest idea of Kumar's is simply the most surreal thing he has dreamed up to date. I mean, compared to this, "part exitations" is sane and logic. There is only one thing wrong with "part exitations": It does not exist. Otherwise it is a sound and logical concept.

If I/we couldn't find any other thing, mostly it will be there on future research because it looks sound and logical concept.

Semiconductor memory in homeoapthic remedies, OTOH, is wrong in multiple layers:

1) There is nothing in a remedy that could function as a semiconductor.

Although, I have already diverted from it, but I may say something on your tellings;

Carbon & silica exists in all potencies. We are not sure anout Hydrogen as semiconductor in case when water is used from first potentization process.

2) There is nothing that could organize a semiconductor, should it exist, into a memory structure.

??

3) There is nothing to power a memory structure, should it exist.

A switch in inactive state; no power is there but still information/memory exists--means how it will behave on applications.

4) There is nothing to read data into, or out of a powered memory structure, should it exist.

I feel 3 covers it.

To dream up a theory that is impossible in four layers is quite a feat.

 

[Donks]

If I/we couldn't find any other thing, mostly it will be there on future research because it looks sound and logical concept.

No.

Although, I have already diverted from it, but I may say something on your tellings;

Carbon & silica exists in all potencies. We are not sure anout Hydrogen as semiconductor in case when water is used from first potentization process.

No.

2) There is nothing that could organize a semiconductor, should it exist, into a memory structure.

??

See? I told you you didn't read other people's posts. Hans and I already detailed exactly what is necessary to store memory in semiconductors. You need a structure, a configuration. You continue to disregard this.

A switch in inactive state; no power is there but still information/memory exists--means how it will behave on applications.

And now you are mixing stuff up. You are now talking about permanent storage, like harddisks, Flash, EEPROMs, etc. You'd need even more complex structures to use these. Stop showing your ignorance in such a glaring manner.

I feel 3 covers it.

Every single time you post "I feel" it is followed by some completely idiotic statement. This point refers to something in the body that could read and decode the information. There is nothing in a body that does that.

 

[clarsct]

Every single time you post "I feel" it is followed by some completely idiotic statement.

>I agree<


This point refers to something in the body that could read and decode the information. There is nothing in a body that does that.

Well, not exactly. Protein synthesis could be considered a code/decode setup. However, it has nothing to do with the binary systems you're talking about. I'm sure this will confuse Kumar, but I posted to reply to you....I think it makes a difference, anyway. The body definately has no way to process silicia, at least none I've ever heard of. In three years of Biochemistry, I think I would have heard of a mechanism, should one exist. Certain silicon compounds, maybe, but very few of them in a positive way. Usually, compounds that contain silicon are not for internal use.

I was wondering, Hans. I couldn't decide if you were an engineer or a physics prof.

Either way I've found your posts interesting, and Donks' as well.

 

[rppa]

Thanks, you explained a lot. But pls just tell; suppose we take silica/silicon or carbon. We then dope either n or p type of doping or add some impurities. Now we apply heat say 98.4F (body tempreture) to one side of any of these material. What will it show on output side?

The other side will show heat.

If you heat one side of a material, ANY material, then heat flows to the other side.

If heat didn't flow, you would have the perfect ideal material to make thermos bottles, refrigerators, and ovens from. Imagine a material where one side could be as hot as the sun and no heat at all flowed through to the other side. Don't you think if there was such a material, we'd be USING IT???

(I think silica require 125 degree C to conduct, but doped material can conduct at much lesser temp.

You are very confused. Heat flows through everything.

 

[Kumar]

If it just conduct the heat, what is the purpose of using silica? Is there any differance in input/output of heat or its pattern?

 

[Donks]

If it just conduct the heat, what is the purpose of using silica? Is there any differance in input/output of heat or its pattern?

Using silica for what exactly?

 

[Kumar]

Using silica for what exactly?

I mean using silicon as semiconductor & doping it?

 

[Donks]

I mean using silicon as semiconductor & doping it?

There and Back Again
Semiconductors are used because it is easy to control their electrical conductive properties. That means that they can be controlled to allow or stop the flow of electrons, which means it can be used as a switch.

 

[rppa]

If it just conduct the heat, what is the purpose of using silica? Is there any differance in input/output of heat or its pattern?

It conducts heat better than some substances, worse than others. Way, way back I mentioned gallium arsenide, which is a lot better than silicon as a heat conductor and equally good as a semiconductor.

But your question seems to imply that "applying heat" has something to do with how we use semiconductors. It doesn't. We don't need it to have any particular heat response. We need it to have certain electrical properties. Doped silicon has those properties when connected up in the right circuits.

Do you think we operate circuitry by putting a flame on one end? Is that your impression of what a battery or electrical socket is for, to heat up one end of a circuit? It's not. Heat is an undesirable side effect, a waste of energy. Electrical properties are entirely different.

 

[Kumar]

rppa, thanks for explaining. I don't know whether our body also have some electric current running througt it. But I just feel that differanciating energy levels & patterns can show differanciating effects.

Anyway, let us move to other side;

We store information of differant wavelengths alongwith their differant patterns as in our brain/memory, on photographic films etc.. Why then these wavelengths/energies can't be stored on carriers & contaminations of homeopathic remedies?

 

[flume]

It sounds like Kumar is moving on from the semiconductor idea. But I think he was talking about heat because of information that was in his earlier quoted sections (my bolds):

Semiconductors have many useful properties that insulators and conductors do not possess. These properties are based on the fact that an electron can jump from the valence band to the conduction band and vice versa. Temperature can give this little extra energy to an electron and make it jump to the conduction band thus creating a hole in the valence band.
http://ceaspub.eas.asu.edu/wideband...s/SCbasics.html

Fundamental semiconductor physics
In the parlance of solid-state physics, semiconductors (and insulators) are defined as solids in which at 0 K (and without excitations) the uppermost band of occupied electron energy states is completely full. It is well-known from solid-state physics that electrical conduction in solids occurs only via electrons in partially-filled bands, so conduction in pure semiconductors occurs only when electrons have been excited--thermally, optically, etc.--into higher unfilled bands.

At room temperature, a proportion (generally very small, but not negligible) of electrons in a semiconductor have been thermally excited from the "valence band," the band filled at 0 K, to the "conduction band," the next higher band. The ease with which electrons can be excited from the valence band to the conduction band depends on the energy gap between the bands, and it is the size of this energy bandgap that serves as an arbitrary dividing line between semiconductors and insulators.http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=1654qlmbifsi3?

If there are no electrons in the conduction band of a semi-conductor it won't conduct. To move electrons out of the valence band and into the conduction band, one needs to give them energy. This may be though heat, incident light or high electric field. As most semiconductors operate at non-zero temperature, there are generally some electrons in the conduction band. This also means that if the semi-conductor get too hot(125 degrees C) for silicon, excess electrons will exist in the conduction band, hence the semi-conductor will act more like a conductor.http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Electron_Device_Modeling:Semiconductor_Physics

 

[MRC_Hans]

*SNIP*We store information of differant wavelengths alongwith their differant patterns as in our brain/memory, on photographic films etc.. Why then these wavelengths/energies can't be stored on carriers & contaminations of homeopathic remedies? [/B]

Because there in nothing there that can store information.

(we are coming full circle )

Hans

 

[Kumar]

Because there in nothing there that can store information.

(we are coming full circle )

Hans

It means, information in energy form is available but these can't be stored on carries & contaminations. Do our brain/photographic film store informations, as a change due to chemical reactions or material change OR change due to energy/WLs effects or energetic changes?

 

[rppa]

We store information of differant wavelengths alongwith their differant patterns as in our brain/memory

No we don't.

 

[MRC_Hans]

It means, information in energy form is available but these can't be stored on carries & contaminations. Do our brain/photographic film store informations, as a change due to chemical reactions or material change OR change due to energy/WLs effects or energetic changes?

Basically: No [tm].

More elaborate: You have got hold of the wrong end. I could explain, but, why should I bother?

Hans

 

[Kumar]

No we don't.

When we see anything--say a rainbow, we do remember it for long time. Also a person's face--means we can store informations in our memory, of most of the things, eventhough we have not interacted with those materiastically.

Mr.Hans,

Every substance can have its specific information as we, photographic film etc. can record & store it. Few can be visible & other can be invisible to our capacity. Even invisible informations can also cause interactions, effects & memory(?). So specific informations is there, in visible, materiastic forms OR in invisible & energy form. Now, how it can be stored on carriers & contaminations--is to be checked.

 

[MRC_Hans]

When we see anything--say a rainbow, we do remember it for long time. Also a person's face--means we can store informations in our memory, of most of the things, eventhough we have not interacted with those materiastically.

Yes, we can store information in our brains. That is, most of us can . We have interacted with them materially, though: Light has reached our eyes.

Mr.Hans,

Every substance can have its specific information as we, photographic film etc. can record & store it.

Uhh, no. By mere eyesight and photographic recording we only get very limited information about substances. You can't take a photo of a stone and afterwards analyze the picture to find the composition of the stone.

Few can be visible & other can be invisible to our capacity.

Even if we recorded the whole spectrum, we would not get full information.

Even invisible informations can also cause interactions, effects & memory(?).

Very limited. A bit heat, and such. That is all.

So specific informations is there,

No. The information is not specific.

in visible, materiastic forms OR in invisible & energy form.

Invisible and energy form is also material.

Now, how it can be stored on carriers & contaminations--is to be checked.

It has been checked. It can't be stored. Not even the non-specific visual image can be stored.

You know, this has been pointed out to you about a hundred timed, by now. Most people would be able to remember it.

Hans

 

[Kumar]

Yes, we can store information in our brains. That is, most of us can . We have interacted with them materially, though: Light has reached our eyes.

This can be the only differance, you store matter/particle based light, I store energy/wave based light.. Moreover, you don't consider sub-atomic part of active substances with its limit upto E=mc2, in homeopathic remedies as material.

Every substance can have its specific information as we, photographic film etc. can record & store it.

Uhh, no. By mere eyesight and photographic recording we only get very limited information about substances. You can't take a photo of a stone and afterwards analyze the picture to find the composition of the stone.
Even if we recorded the whole spectrum, we would not get full information.
Very limited. A bit heat, and such. That is all.

Yes, but still we can recognize a substance in photo or memory afterwords & tell what was that. I am insisting & indicating mere this much information in homeopathic remedies. Pls concentrate on this much information, in understanding HRs/TRs alike "AURA".

No. The information is not specific.

It is specific because we can recognize a photo or any previous thing in our memory. No doubt it will be an information limited to physical appearance of any object, not its internal picture.

Invisible and energy form is also material.

Whether wave form of photon is also material. Anyhow material forms can be stored--so energy in material forms could be stored in HRs. Btw, is it possible that dual property of a photon can be seprated & defined as single entity?

It has been checked. It can't be stored. Not even the non-specific visual image can be stored.

That we have yet to understand till HRs shows effects.

You know, this has been pointed out to you about a hundred timed, by now. Most people would be able to remember it.

As I said above, probably you are telling me in matter form, but I want to understand in energy form.

 

[MRC_Hans]

This can be the only differance, you store matter/particle based light, I store energy/wave based light..

You need to practice more on joking.

Moreover, you don't consider sub-atomic part of active substances with its limit upto E=mc2, in homeopathic remedies as material.

Gibberish. Don't refer to E=mc2 again till you understand what it is about (means: Never).

Yes, but still we can recognize a substance in photo or memory afterwords & tell what was that.

No, we can't. If I send you a picture of a brown fluid, can you tell me what it is?

I am insisting & indicating mere this much information in homeopathic remedies.

You are wrong.

Pls concentrate on this much information, in understanding HRs/TRs alike "AURA".

There is no such thing as aura. And there is no information in HR.

It is specific because we can recognize a photo or any previous thing in our memory. No doubt it will be an information limited to physical appearance of any object, not its internal picture.

Not even the physical appearance. I'll send you a picture of a rock. You won't even be able to tell the size of it.

Whether wave form of photon is also material.

It is.

Anyhow material forms can be stored--so energy in material forms could be stored in HRs.

No.

Btw, is it possible that dual property of a photon can be seprated & defined as single entity?

No.

That we have yet to understand till HRs shows effects.

They don't.

As I said above, probably you are telling me in matter form, but I want to understand in energy form.

No, you don't want to understand at all. You want to have your beliefs confirmed. As long as you have such silly beliefs, that won't happen.

Hans

 

[Kumar]

You need to practice more on joking.

I don't joke, but I can't stop reaction as per third law of motion.


Gibberish. Don't refer to E=mc2 again till you understand what it is about (means: Never).

I just know energy is much more than the atoms/molecules & can cover much bigger range than atoms/molecules can cover.

No, we can't. If I send you a picture of a brown fluid, can you tell me what it is?

Yes, brown fluid, somewhat similar as you see it, physically.

You are wrong.

No reflected wavelengths are there.

Pls concentrate on this much information, in understanding HRs/TRs alike "AURA".

There is no such thing as aura. And there is no information in HR.

There is AURA. Radiating body heat, shedded skin particles & reflected wavelengths can all be said as differant "AURAs". However, you can name it differantly in your technical words.

Not even the physical appearance. I'll send you a picture of a rock. You won't even be able to tell the size of it.

Probably, we get very small image of a mountain through our eyes not same size of whole mountain, but still can tell its appx. size.

No, you don't want to understand at all. You want to have your beliefs confirmed. As long as you have such silly beliefs, that won't happen.

Is it wrong, if I want to confirm my beliefs/observations/experiances in science?