Quantum reality and Idealism

Iacchus said:
Only because you don't think "spirit" exists. That's your problem not mine.
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So now its a problem to question things that people believe in with no reason? What if its someone's belief that you are the antichrist and they have to kill you to save the world (they saw it in a vision). I suppose in that case, it really would by your problem, not their's...
 
Iacchus said:
Only because you don't think "spirit" exists. That's your problem not mine.
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I've got no problem at all...since "spirit" has no apparent existance, its lack from my life doesn't bother me one bit!
 
RussDill said:


So now its a problem to question things that people believe in with no reason? What if its someone's belief that you are the antichrist and they have to kill you to save the world (they saw it in a vision). I suppose in that case, it really would by your problem, not their's...
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No, the problem is that he said it was a poor excuse for a metaphor. Which, to me sounds like he already has a "closed mind" on the matter. And like I said that's not my problem.
 
Zero said:
I've got no problem at all...since "spirit" has no apparent existance, its lack from my life doesn't bother me one bit!
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Well, it looks like you beat me to the punch! ;) However, the life that you're referring to here "is" your spirit.
 
Iacchus said:
No, the problem is that he said it was a poor excuse for a metaphor. Which, to me sounds like he already has a "closed mind" on the matter. And like I said that's not my problem.
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The problem is you using metaphor, because there is no rational evidence of "spirit" therefore, comparing it o anything is illogical.
 
Zero said:
The problem is you using metaphor, because there is no rational evidence of "spirit" therefore, comparing it o anything is illogical.
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Oh obviously, which indeed is "reflective" of your mindset.
 
RussDill said:

You've already admitted that your mindset is due only to what you want to believe.
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Indeed, I think discernment is a necessary quality, before committing things to one's memory.
 
Iacchus said:
Indeed, I think discernment is a necessary quality, before committing things to one's memory.
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Believing only what you want to believe, and only remembering the parts that are positive towards means that you are only lying to yourself to make yourself happy.

You have no place in a philosophical discussion. All you have to offer are self admitted lies.
 
RussDill said:


Believing only what you want to believe, and only remembering the parts that are positive towards means that you are only lying to yourself to make yourself happy.

You have no place in a philosophical discussion. All you have to offer are self admitted lies.
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Like I said, the first delusion begins with ourselves. ;)
 
Iacchus said:
Like I said, the first delusion begins with ourselves.
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We'd rather not delude ourselves, but instead search for truths. I don't think you'll have any luck convincing anyone that its better to delude themselves.
 
RussDill said:


We'd rather not delude ourselves, but instead search for truths. I don't think you'll have any luck convincing anyone that its better to delude themselves.
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The good news is that not only does he lie to himself, he apparently "thinks" in fortune cookie fortunes.
 
lifegazer said:

No. Quantum physics says electrons are of a sentient. They are effects seen within awareness.
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See, I KNEW you would say something stupid, if given half a chance!!
 
Iacchus said:
Discredited no doubt by the same cold and lifeless system that suggests there's no such thing as human spirituality.
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Why is it that anything that doesn't agree with your infantile worldview is 'cold and lifeless'? Your desire that the world behave like a cartoon doesn't make it so, and shouldn't make it so. "Truth" is not about which fantasy makes you happiest, it is about which ideas most closely match what we actually see going on around us.

The way you seem to look at the world is the way that kids and mentally ill adults look at it.
 
Iacchus said:
Only because you don't think "spirit" exists. That's your problem not mine.
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I like bacardi!

There is little proof for spirit aside from the liquor type, present your evidence and then we can suggest alternatives to transcendant spirit.
 
Zero said:
See, I KNEW you would say something stupid, if given half a chance!!
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Your statement collapsed his brain function, there was a probability he would say something inteligent.

Why electrons should exist , to prove the existance of god!
 
Zero said:
The problem is you using metaphor, because there is no rational evidence of "spirit" therefore, comparing it o anything is illogical.
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But but but...

It's like a radio, we all tune into diferent stations, that is proof of the universal transcendant!

Life is in the living!
 
Dancing David said:

Well, I would say that it appears that my consiousness is associated with a body. After I die i will buy you a spiritual beer if you are right!
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I've already had one! ... Spiritual champagne too! :D
 
Dancing David said:


But but but...

It's like a radio, we all tune into diferent stations, that is proof of the universal transcendant!

Life is in the living!
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But but but...


life is like a bowl of cherries...ummm, semi-circular, flat on the bottom and filled with little red round things?
 
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