Quantum reality and Idealism

[Fishboot]

This thread...

If you know a certain critical amount about QM and physics in general, this guy will fail to bother you enough to post; If you don't know the certain critical amount you are not qualified to educate him. A devilish conundrum, I'd say...

 

[Zero]

Re: This thread...

If you know a certain critical amount about QM and physics in general, this guy will fail to bother you enough to post; If you don't know the certain critical amount you are not qualified to educate him. A devilish conundrum, I'd say...

Since you posted, can we judge which camp you belong to?

 

[lifegazer]

Energy does not exist as a definite particle within spacetime except within the awareness of an observer. This is a fact which any physicist will confirm with basic-known axioms of QM.
The realm of definites IS a realm of mind.
The realm of definites is a realm of division/separation in relation to other definites.
Yet this realm does not exist, except within the mind.
The realm of definites is an illusion. There is no division.
Reality is indivisible.
Only the Mind exists.

Now... acknowledge your God.

 

[Pahansiri]

Energy does not exist as a definite particle within spacetime except within the awareness of an observer. This is a fact which any physicist will confirm with basic-known axioms of QM.
The realm of definites IS a realm of mind.
The realm of definites is a realm of division/separation in relation to other definites.
Yet this realm does not exist, except within the mind.
The realm of definites is an illusion. There is no division.
Reality is indivisible.
Only the Mind exists.

Now... acknowledge your God.

Go back and read my post over and over and over then do as I Recommend and buy books and read them you clearly have no grasp of this or any topic you have sought to speak on..

By the by way to avoid my questions again.. Fear not you have not the tools to answer so no one expected you to.

 

[Zero]

Energy does not exist as a definite particle within spacetime except within the awareness of an observer. This is a fact which any physicist will confirm with basic-known axioms of QM.
The realm of definites IS a realm of mind.
The realm of definites is a realm of division/separation in relation to other definites.
Yet this realm does not exist, except within the mind.
The realm of definites is an illusion. There is no division.
Reality is indivisible.
Only the Mind exists.

Now... acknowledge your God.

Have you bothered to consult a physicist? Read a book?

 

[lifegazer]

Your mind is sealed with a lock guarded by foolishness.
I can do no more for you.

 

[Zero]

Your mind is sealed with a lock guarded by foolishness.
I can do no more for you.

This is so much the pot calling the kettle black. You have been convinced of your own infallibility for years, which is the absolute definition of 'close minded'. You haven't changed your mind, even after having been confronted with fact upon fact showing that your 'philosophy' is neither original, nor based on anything more than your wishful thinking and misinterpretation of the facts.

 

[lifegazer]

This is so much the pot calling the kettle black. You have been convinced of your own infallibility for years, which is the absolute definition of 'close minded'. You haven't changed your mind, even after having been confronted with fact upon fact showing that your 'philosophy' is neither original, nor based on anything more than your wishful thinking and misinterpretation of the facts.

Look Zero, the essential indeterminancy of fundamental energy is kindergarten QM. Your squeels of denial are pitiable.

 

[Pahansiri]

Your mind is sealed with a lock guarded by foolishness.
I can do no more for you.

We watch the contradictions pile up. YOU said there is no mind other then Gods mind, you said only God exists and if God exists nothing else exist.

So how can “my “ mind sealed with a lock guarded by foolishness. If there is no “my” mind?

I will ask for the, well I am not sure how many times it is now. Do you really know what you believe?


Please allow me to post the question you again avoided.

Everyday our technology improves so as we can see deeper and deeper into space. We find planets or suns we had not yet seen or we see the light remnants of the death of suns or planets.

In the case of the light remnants of the death of suns or planets these planets or suns/starts died billions of years ago and were “born” hundreds of billions of years before that.

Do you know anything about light speed?

No humans as we know them as to Earth observed these suns/planets yet there is proof they existed. Do you REALLY believe that on Monday when a new telescope finds and identifies a new star, that that star did not exist as a star the second before they observed it?


Billions of years of the causes and conditions behind the rising/birth of a star, the forming of gasses to solids simply happened in that split second…


Is it your position that this star did not exist yesterday?

I do not expect you to answer I just enjoy others seeing you are not honest enough or believe enough in what you say is truth to try to answer or defend your statements.

 

[UndercoverElephant]

Actually I don't know what a sock-puppet is? Is this one of those things you would term a "James Randi" colloquialism? Hmm ... Whose puppet are we referring to here?

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YOURS, NAPPY BOY.
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[Zero]

Look Zero, the essential indeterminancy of fundamental energy is kindergarten QM. Your squeels of denial are pitiable.

"Fundamental energy"? Why is that term so unfamiliar to me? What reference book did it come from, and what is its definition? How is it described in relation to electromagnetism and the nuclear forces?

 

[Pahansiri]

Look Zero, the essential indeterminancy of fundamental energy is kindergarten QM. Your squeels of denial are pitiable.

Read my post again over and over and the post of the others.

You are in over your head and making yourself look the fool.


You confuse some small misunderstood information for reality.

p.s. indeterminancy is spelled indeterminacy

 

[Zero]

Read my post again over and over and the post of the others.

You are in over your head and making yourself look the fool.


You confuse some small misunderstood information for reality.

p.s. indeterminancy is spelled indeterminacy

Go Spelling Police!!!

 

[UndercoverElephant]

lol..

No Zero my friend I believe he is a rational person just not when it comes to things he wants to be true like lifegazer They first set what they want to be true then seek to use what is true to make their belief seem true.

The desire for what they want to be true blinds them to the facts and realities that demonstrate what they believe is not true or has yet to be proven to be true.

Both smart kids/ guys just lead by ego rather then rational thinking on some things.

Just what I believe.

Pahansiri,

Ego is what does the thinking. That's why those who meditate seek to stop the thought.

Lifegazer can neither think properly nor not-think properly.

Geoff.

 

[Zero]

Pahansiri,

Ego is what does the thinking. That's why those who meditate seek to stop the thought.

Lifegazer can neither think properly nor not-think properly.

Geoff.

I was thinking he has the 'not thinking' down to a science....or at least down to a religion.

 

[Pahansiri]

Go Spelling Police!!!

Zero really I do not mean to act like a Spelling Police and find it rude in most cases. My point with our friend is he demands he is the sole in the history of the word, holder of truth and knowledge. That all others are stupid yet his spelling ( along with simple ability to think logically) is very poor.

One would expect from a perfect all knowing being like him that he could at least spell.

I know my many limitations.

 

[UndercoverElephant]

I was thinking he has the 'not thinking' down to a science....or at least down to a religion.

Zero,

I have no problem with you, since I consider Zero to be closer to God than any other word invented by humanity. But please understand that Lifegazer is as remote from mysticism as he is from logic, mathematics and science. You have three times claimed he meditates to find his answers. I tell you any person who meditates could not possibly end up like this obscene excuse for a human being. He cannot think and he does not understand the relevance of non-thought. Non-thought and bad thought are not the same tihing.



Geoff.

 

[Pahansiri]

Lifegazer can neither think properly nor not-think properly.

Geoff.

Hello my friend.

I would say as to this topic that is the case. His desire for this to be fact blinds him to the fact.

Science is not about making a belief seem true it is about seeking truth no matter how it may compare with what you may desire to be true as you know.

 

[Zero]

Zero really I do not mean to act like a Spelling Police and find it rude in most cases. My point with our friend is he demands he is the sole in the history of the word, holder of truth and knowledge. That all others are stupid yet his spelling ( along with simple ability to think logically) is very poor.

One would expect from a perfect all knowing being like him that he could at least spell.

I know my many limitations.

It is whole aversion to opening a book occasionally that causes it. He probably watches TV occasionally, and catches popular science shows. Where he got the idea that he didn't need to study the subjects that he claims to understand is beyond me...but at least he could spell better, right? Since he is worthy of worship and all...


...wait, he doesn't want to be worshipped, which is why he spells words incorrectly on purpose!!

 

[Pahansiri]

Zero,

I have no problem with you, since I consider Zero to be closer to God than any other word invented by humanity.



Geoff.

I would agree, as I see Zero Evidence to support the God idea.

But more far more relevant Zero Evidence to support why it is relevant.

Just what I believe.