Qs for the CTs

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These questions are directed towards those on the forum supporting some of the conspiracy theories for the WTC, OKC, <insert your favorite acronym here>, KFC, etc.

Sorry if this has already been asked before. (Don’t tell me though, because I do so much enjoy basking in my superior originality. :) )

Are there any conspiracy theories that you believe are fabricated and false?

Are all of the examples of false conspiracies fabricated by the government, or do some exist where the government has the story correct and the conspiracy theory about the government cover-up is false?

Could you provide some examples of the evidence and reasoning you used to draw your conclusions?
 
I have a feeling that the responses, if any, to those questions will be doozies.
 
I was contemplating opening a new thread but this is probably a better place for what I have in mind. I have some specific questions for WTC CT believers:

1. If the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition, what is the need for the airplanes? Why not just blow up the buildings and blame that on the terrorists? Why do both? It's unecessary.

2. Conversely, if the motivation of the gubmint behind the faked terrorist attacks was to garner justification for attacking Iraq, wouldn't 3 or 4 passenger jet liners striking buildings at full speed be sufficiently spectacular to accomplish that? Why bring down the buildings as well (since everyone knows they never would have collapsed the way they did) and thereby arouse suspicion?

3. You keep making these claims about what would happen, what wouldn't happen, and what should have happened under these circumstances, but exactly what do we have to compare it to? Have you conducted the following two tests: Take two 100+ story buildings of exactly the same design and construction as the WTC buildings. Blow one up using controlling demolition while flying a robotic airplane into it. Fly a fully fueled 767 jet liner into the other one. Wait one hour. Film both events with hand-held video cameras from a variety of angles and distances, some good, some bad. Examine films. Compare notes. Until you conduct these tests, stop talking about it and making stupid claims.
 
1.) Why blow up WTC7?
2.) Why target the Pentagon?
3.) Why shoot down flight 93?

Doing so introduces more variables including more people that exposes the conspiracy to discovery.

As to the OP, some theories for you to consider.

Moon landing hoax
JFK
CIA selling drugs to inner cities
Tri Lateral commision
US Government run by secret society
US Government run by Jews
Financial institutions run by Jews

But please, anyone who buys into Loose Change or any CT let us know, which ones don't you buy and why?
 
A couple of years ago there was a documentary series in the US on TRIO, about conspiracy theories. It seemed pretty balanced with the host letting the Theosists talk all they want and present their evidence, then let contrary views be explored. I no longer get TRIO, and think it is gone for good, but I still want to see that series again. I think it was produced in the UK by the same people who did the doc on Kurt Cobain, that Courtney Love tried to stop. David Ike was interviewed and Harry Shearer (from the Simpsons).
Can anyone tell me the name of the show?
 
Psi Baba said:
I was contemplating opening a new thread but this is probably a better place for what I have in mind. I have some specific questions for WTC CT believers:

1. If the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition, what is the need for the airplanes? Why not just blow up the buildings and blame that on the terrorists? Why do both? It's unecessary.

2. Conversely, if the motivation of the gubmint behind the faked terrorist attacks was to garner justification for attacking Iraq, wouldn't 3 or 4 passenger jet liners striking buildings at full speed be sufficiently spectacular to accomplish that? Why bring down the buildings as well (since everyone knows they never would have collapsed the way they did) and thereby arouse suspicion?

3. You keep making these claims about what would happen, what wouldn't happen, and what should have happened under these circumstances, but exactly what do we have to compare it to? Have you conducted the following two tests: Take two 100+ story buildings of exactly the same design and construction as the WTC buildings. Blow one up using controlling demolition while flying a robotic airplane into it. Fly a fully fueled 767 jet liner into the other one. Wait one hour. Film both events with hand-held video cameras from a variety of angles and distances, some good, some bad. Examine films. Compare notes. Until you conduct these tests, stop talking about it and making stupid claims.
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Because anti-NWO CTers tend to be such poor spokespeople for their cause, they've engaged me to do their PR. To address your questions:

1) Who would be the scapegoat if no Arabs were involved? The WTC attacks were an inside job, and Larry Silverstein, not Larry Muhammed, was the leaseholder of those buildings. Also, what diversion would you have suggested that would have allowed the dumptrucks full of gold to be driven away unseen?

2) You are thinking well within the confines of your cubicle. The motives for the 9/11 attacks were many, as was clearly explained by JFK on the Loose Change forum:
There was not 1 reason for this, but many.
Starting with the most simple motives - the asbsetos, the insurance, the lack of tennants ( income ), the aging and corrosion problems ( aluminum clad steel ).
To the political - the taliban walking out on the talks on the oil pipeline thru Afghanistan, Sadam talking about converting his economy to the Euro, etc.
To the unimaginable - do a google search on the " Georgia Guidestones " and you will soon realize what I mean. Keep in mind the current global population is ~6.5 Billion. Then think about the timeline of the erection of this monument and the "discovery" of many of our modern "diseases".

Other reasons would be the silencing of certain individuals who "knew too much".

Do some research on the backgrounds of the victims.
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3) Why would you go through all that trouble when you can do the same thing with holograms?
 
Gravy said:
3) Why would you go through all that trouble when you can do the same thing with holograms?
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Why go through all that trouble when you can just hook everyone's brains into computer simulations and use their body heat for energy? ;)
 
CptColumbo said:
I think it was produced in the UK by the same people who did the doc on Kurt Cobain, that Courtney Love tried to stop. David Ike was interviewed and Harry Shearer (from the Simpsons).
Can anyone tell me the name of the show?
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It might have been the series "The Secret Rulers of the World" by Jon Ronsom. He wrote a book, called "Them! Adventures with Extremists" which was based on the series. Very good, very entertaining, and sometimes disturbing.
 
Starting with the most simple motives - the asbsetos, the insurance, the lack of tennants ( income ), the aging and corrosion problems ( aluminum clad steel ).
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But still able to withstand 100% of known aeroplanes and totally invulnerable to fire!

To the political - the taliban walking out on the talks on the oil pipeline thru Afghanistan, Sadam talking about converting his economy to the Euro, etc.
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Stupid of them not to arrange to have just one of the "terrorists" be an Afghan or an Iraqi, wasn't it?

To the unimaginable - do a google search on the " Georgia Guidestones " and you will soon realize what I mean. Keep in mind the current global population is ~6.5 Billion. Then think about the timeline of the erection of this monument and the "discovery" of many of our modern "diseases".
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Yeah ... it makes sense ... if I was the New World Order, I'd keep my Secret Agenda on public display written on slabs of granite twenty foot high.

And certainly if I wanted to reduce the population then I'd do it by TEH CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.

I can just imagine the scene at NWO HQ:

Bush: We did it! We reduced the global population by 0.00005 per cent!

Prince Charles: Excellent, my faithful henchman! So if you keep this up on a daily basis, how long before we depopulate the planet?

Bush: Never.

PC: Oh?

Bush: More people than that are born every day.

PC: Are you sure?

Bush: Condi helped me with the math.

So I guess they'll just have to invent another disease.

It's stupid really --- the Black Death wiped out half the population of Europe. The NWO can't even halt population growth with their modern diseases.

I guess the Knights Templar were better at genetic engineering than historians give them credit for.
 
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JohnF_73 said:
It might have been the series "The Secret Rulers of the World" by Jon Ronsom. He wrote a book, called "Them! Adventures with Extremists" which was based on the series. Very good, very entertaining, and sometimes disturbing.
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That rings a bell. Thanks.
 
My questions to them over on the Loose Change forum (never answered of course: )

Who specifically brought the towers down? Can you give me every specific name you have of people involved? Why did they bring the towers down? What were their motivations? What specifically did they gain?

What type of explosives did "they" use? How much did they use? Where did they plant them? How did they plant them? Why not just blow the buildings up and plant evidence that terrorists had put the explosives there? Why hasn't anyone found any evidence of explosive material anywhere near the WTC?

How did "they" keep it all a secret? They couldn't keep the wiretaps secret. They couldn't keep Monica secret. They couldn't keep Watergate secret. They couldn't keep Iran/Contra secret. How was it that all of the thousands of people that would necessarily know about this have never slipped up and told the wrong person? How is it none of them felt guilty and came forward?

If "they" have the people and resources to knock down some of the most memorable landmarks in one of the biggest cities in the world in broad daylight and keep every single person quiet about it, why don't they take down your website and movie? If their super ninja spies can sneak into the WTC to plant explosives on every floor, sneaking into your house in the middle of the night and stealing or destroying all the data should be a cakewalk. Disappearing you would be even easier.

If you all actually believe this, why are you sitting on your butts posting on an internet forum? If I knew my government was deliberately murdering citizens and covering it up, I'd do more than sit around pointing out how obvious I thought it all was. I'd be gathering the proof for a lawsuit, stocking munitions for the bloody revolution, or leaving the country right away. I wouldn't buy anything, because I'd know that every dime of my tax money was going to a murderous regime. I wouldn't work, because I'd know my wages were being taxed to support murder, and that the company I worked for would have to be complicit at some level with what was happening. The very act of posting in this forum at some level demonstrates complicity in what "they" have done. Someone has to pay for the power and ISP. Somewhere along the line, Uncle Sam is taking a cut of that money. Also, wouldn't my government be populated by thousands upon thousands of completely evil people? Why would I attach my name to anything? Loose change has the film makers' names all over it, and they talk freely to the press whenever they get a chance. If I really thought "they" were capable of all this, this conversation we're having now certainly wouldn't be worth the risk. For all you know, I could work for a government intelligence agency!

Finally, how is your conspiracy theory any different than the conspiracy theories of those who believe that the U.S. government covered up alien landings at Roswell, that the same government deliberately planned Pearl Harbor, that the Hocaust wasn't real, or that more than one gunman assasinated Kennedy? Experts have thoroughly explained each of these phenomina, just like your conspiracy. What makes them nuts and you right?
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