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Merged Qatar scandal/GCC nations cut ties with Qatar

What's being said here is that they have found something linking Qatar to supporting the Houthis in Yemen despite being involved in the coalition. Additionally al Jazeera insulted the king of Saudi last week. It was led by Saudi, not UAE.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
ok this is a bit bizarre.

I think it's linked to this:

https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomac...us-reveal-alleged-role-in-turkey-coup-attempt

I other words, it's an attempt by the UAE to distract from its own mess.
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Russian is propaganda making mountain ranges out of molehills again. The meeting on which Turkey was also discus a month prior to the coup attempt is now presented as 'evidence' these people participated in the coup, even though the agenda clearly showed how USA and UAE would best improve Turkish behavior using political, economic and security tools (in that order).

That's "Bush knew!" level of 'deduction'.

McHrozni
 
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That's not to say my link was to a completely unbiased source. However I was merely linking to the developments and could have used a multitude of links
 
Puppycow said:
I was reading about this via CNN. They said that UAE is expelling all Qatari nationals including residents?

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/05/middleeast/saudi-bahrain-egypt-uae-qatar-terror/
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At the moment all Qatari nationals have to be out of the country in 14 days. Same with Saudi. Flights suspended. Land border with Saudi closed off. Sea transport cut off. Egypt, Yemen and others piling on. Football team sponsorships cancelled with Qatar airways. Al Jazeera is blocked in UAE and KSA.

It only has one land border. With KSA. Its has certainly escalated since earlier today.
 
It's a them or us moment for Qatar. Insulting the King of Saudi publically was never going to end well.
 
Well . . . that escalated quickly.

In truth there's so many rumours flying around it's hard for me to figure out what exactly is going on. I think this is primarily the same issues that caused the problems in 2014 -- Qatar doing its own thing and not following the other GCC countries. At the time UAE, Saudi and Bahrain pulled their ambassadors and it was months before they returned. I don't think everyone buried the hatchet on that and so it was simmering. Meanwhile Qatar continued doing its own thing. I'm guessing the recent events (the hack of the Qatar News Agency publishing that speech supposedly by the Emir, the hack of the UAE Ambassador to the US's emails) were just the pretext for outrage by both sides.

Meanwhile the mood here are a bit nervous but otherwise life is going on as normal. People are watching the news and have been stocking up on groceries but there hasn't been a panic. Qataris will be the ones to suffer more in the long-term if they have to leave the other GCC countries and return to Qatar, and this will no doubt hurt business on both sides.

I just don't know what it is Saudi/UAE are looking for. What do they want?
 
TriangleMan said:
Well . . . that escalated quickly.

In truth there's so many rumours flying around it's hard for me to figure out what exactly is going on. I think this is primarily the same issues that caused the problems in 2014 -- Qatar doing its own thing and not following the other GCC countries. At the time UAE, Saudi and Bahrain pulled their ambassadors and it was months before they returned. I don't think everyone buried the hatchet on that and so it was simmering. Meanwhile Qatar continued doing its own thing. I'm guessing the recent events (the hack of the Qatar News Agency publishing that speech supposedly by the Emir, the hack of the UAE Ambassador to the US's emails) were just the pretext for outrage by both sides.

Meanwhile the mood here are a bit nervous but otherwise life is going on as normal. People are watching the news and have been stocking up on groceries but there hasn't been a panic. Qataris will be the ones to suffer more in the long-term if they have to leave the other GCC countries and return to Qatar, and this will no doubt hurt business on both sides.

I just don't know what it is Saudi/UAE are looking for. What do they want?
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I was speaking about this with a colleague today. Her friends in Qatar told her the things going on today have a lot to do with the arms deal that Trump announced in the KSA last week. Supposedly, Qatar wasn't on board with the deal and it pissed a lot of people off. Any substance to this, or just rumor?
 
FenerFan said:
I was speaking about this with a colleague today. Her friends in Qatar told her the things going on today have a lot to do with the arms deal that Trump announced in the KSA last week. Supposedly, Qatar wasn't on board with the deal and it pissed a lot of people off. Any substance to this, or just rumor?
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Anything is possible I suppose. I have not heard that variant though, I did hear a version that Trump agreed to look the other way as part of the big Saudi-USA arms deal.

Unfortunately there could be a combination of things that triggered this response from UAE/Saudi/Egypt: Qatar involved with the Muslim Brotherhood, Qatar involved with the "wrong groups" in Syria, Qatar getting too close to Turkey, Qatar supporting the Gaza Strip, Qatar not closing Al-Jazeera, Qatar backtalked the Saudi King, Qatar isn't "anti-Iran" enough, Qatar getting pompous for getting the 2022 World Cup, some of the above, all of the above, or none of the above. Who knows?
 
Degeneve said:
Seing Saudi Arabia/UAE claim that Qatar supports islamist terrorists is priceless... :D
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Qatar's critics also need to be consistent on who Qatar allegedly supports. I've now seen various claims that they support ISIL, Israel, Iran, Houthi rebels, and Al-Qaeda. What???
 
Apparently Iran is now stirring things up. A Qatari friend forwarded an excerpt (in Arabic) from an article that says Iran is willing to ship food to Qatar. Iran has three ports nearby and can deliver food to Qatar within 12 hours. I haven't found an article in English that supports this but it is likely that Iran would make that offer. I base it on this statement by the Qatar Government:

http://www.gulf-times.com/story/552226/Cabinet-reassures-citizens-residents-calls-on-to-I

The relevant excerpt (bolding mine):

The maritime ports and the airfield will remain open for imports, transit, and flights to all countries except the ones that closed their borders and airspace access.
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If you look at a map of the region Qatar will have a real challenge to get its planes to Europe, or South and East Asia, without using Iranian airspace (yes, Europe flights could conceivably fly over Iraq but that would not be wise, and currently many Qatar Airways flights reached Europe by hugging the Iran/Iraq border). Iran must have agreed to allow Qatar Airways to have increased use of its airspace for all of the relevant flights.
 
Well, I think this is quite bizarre in its extremety as well and fail to come up with a good CT on my own. Best so far is Al Manar, the Hezbollah outlet, with the claim that (read in context) Al Jazeera leaked documents that expose conspiring between GCC officials and David Ignatius to positively frame an apparent palace coup in Saudi Arabia and the subsequent inauguration of Salman Junior as King. Total rage by the latter following.
 
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