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Without my magnifying glass, I see this url on that image.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/weeklyarchives2019-2020/data/NCHSData12.csv
Yes. Yes it does.

It took me to a excel spreadsheet with annual data which creates a graph.
False. It is weekly data and is updated weekly. See that little number 12 in the file name? That is the week number. We are up to week 17 by now. Time has elapsed.

So at the time of week 12, the data had only gotten as far as week 11 and the week 11 data was not all in by then. The available week 11 data gave Pneumonia deaths = 2431 Influenza deaths = 365 which precisely corresponds with the low point on your graph you so love.

So far so good.

But we are now in week 17 as I mentioned, and most reports are in by now for week 11.

What is the data for week 11 in the week 17 data, we wonder?

Well no. we don't have to wonder at all. We can just read it if that is not to much trouble for you.

Same source, week 17 data file gives the following for week 11.

Pneumonia deaths = 3669 Influenza deaths = 576

See what that does to your idiotic graph. If you are able.


What if the misspelling was made, either accidentally or intentionally, by the same whistleblower person who is behind all those reports saying H=chloroquine is safe and effective.?
Or some crank making those graphs and those claims? What about that?

Two of the names on one of those reports checked out at CDC on many other papers there. So far almost everyone is ignoring that.
Nope, You are ignoring that. I went to the exact same site for the exact same raw data for week 17 and blew your nonsense out of the water. You actually had no clue that the 12 in the filename represented week twelve did you? You had no clue that you could have grabbed
NCHSData13.csv
NCHSData14.csv
NCHSData15.csv
NCHSData16.csv
NCHSData17.csv

Next week we will have NCHSData18.csv and so forth every week.

In each file, the last reporting week will show such a downturn due to reporting time lag. Every single one.

Here it is again.

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Why? You clearly don't understand it.
 
NCHSData14.csv
NCHSData15.csv
NCHSData16.csv
NCHSData17.csv

Next week we will have NCHSData18.csv and so forth every week.

In each file, the last reporting week will show such a downturn due to reporting time lag. Every single one.

Yeah, I made a graph out of the week 17 data and doubled the partial week, and it still showed a downturn.

I'm surprised that none of the conspiracy morons caught that 2014-2015 had an extra week, week 53. Obviously some kind of calendar conspiracy.
 
Yeah, I made a graph out of the week 17 data and doubled the partial week, and it still showed a downturn.

I'm surprised that none of the conspiracy morons caught that 2014-2015 had an extra week, week 53. Obviously some kind of calendar conspiracy.

But that is the sneaky maffs stuff they use to confuse us, right?

I weep for humanity when they become unable to add.
 
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Two of the names on one of those reports checked out at CDC on many other papers there. So far almost everyone is ignoring that.

abaddon said
Nope, You are ignoring that. I went to the exact same site for the exact same raw data for week 17 and blew your nonsense out of the water. You actually had no clue that the 12 in the filename represented week twelve did you?


Not ignoring. I was referring to different material altogether.


"those reports" are different materials altogether. Being chloroquine studies since 2005. Nothing related to the chart topic with the raw data week twelve stuff you mention.

Here it is. It looks like someone put some reports of medical studies on google docs. Eleven pages. 21 reports. Some links. Two names I searched checked out as valid, (BR Erickson, Pierre Rollin)....seen on many other cdc reports

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1545C_dJWMIAgqeLEsfo2U8Kq5WprDuARXrJl6N1aDjY/edit#


Concluding remarks


Opinion
Historical controls are used in many previous studies in medicine. In this respect, the safety of Hydroxychloroquine is well documented. When the safe use of this drug is projected against its apparent effect of decreasing the progression of early cases to ventilator use, it is difficult to understand the reluctance of the authorities in charge of U.S. pandemic management to recommend its use in early COVID-19 cases. The effects of the chloroquines were first outlined 15 years ago by the CDC’s own Special Pathogens Unit.
 
On the rare occasions when the Q people make specific predictions, they don't seem to pan out. Maybe that's why they stick to vague nonsense most of the time.

Ann Vandersteel Reported That Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and Their ‘Minions’ Would All Be Arrested by May 5 - [link is to her youtube show]

credulous moron fodder said:
During last Thursday’s episode of her “Steel Truth” program, right-wing QAnon conspiracy theorist Ann Vandersteel claimed that one of her sources, who she said had never been wrong, told her that former FBI Director James Comey, former CIA Director John Brennan, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and various deep state “minions” would all be arrested by May 5 because the number 5/5 “means a lot” to QAnon conspiracy theorists.

“Last night I got a phone call from a source who to me has never been wrong and is saying that Comey will be arrested on Sunday, Clapper Monday, Brennan Tuesday,” Vandersteel said. “And when I say Comey, it’s the proverbial ‘we’ of Comey—it’s the [Andrew] McCabe, [Peter] Strzok, [Lisa] Page, the people that worked under James Comey. Clapper and his Department of Homeland Security minions, and Brennan and his minions over at the [CIA] will be arrested on Tuesday.”

“We start this on 5/3, and we end these arrests on 5/5,” she added. “So for you Q folks out there, 5/5 means a lot in this world, and to have those three rounded up by 5/5 is pretty, pretty important.”
 
“We start this on 5/3, and we end these arrests on 5/5,” she added. “So for you Q folks out there, 5/5 means a lot in this world, and to have those three rounded up by 5/5 is pretty, pretty important.”

Are Q believers into numerology? That makes them even more lame. Plus of course they got it wrong again, but we're getting used to that.
 
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On the rare occasions when the Q people make specific predictions, they don't seem to pan out. Maybe that's why they stick to vague nonsense most of the time.

Ann Vandersteel Reported That Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and Their ‘Minions’ Would All Be Arrested by May 5 - [link is to her youtube show]

Good news - Comey may have already been picked up by the US Marshals.
Vandersteel’s source told her that he has had somebody “following James Comey for a while” who reports that Comey has not been seen since April 24.

“I have stressed over and over it was a rumor,” Vandersteel said. “I called my source last night about it, and I said, ‘You know, what do you think is going on?’ He said he’s had somebody, another person that he’s connected with, following James Comey for a while. He lives around the block, and he said James Comey was last seen in a supermarket on April 24, and that was the last time he was seen in public. His family and his house have been empty since April 24.”

“Maybe they’re on vacation. Who knows? I don’t know,” Vandersteel added. “Maybe the U.S. Marshals have them. I don’t know. Maybe he’s a cooperating witness. I have no idea.”

"Last seen in a supermarket April 24" - he couldn't be holed up getting groceries delivered like every other rich old person, could he?
 
Goodness Gracious Laddies

That Phony baloney Q Quack sure is busy keeping up lately.
 
Well, there's no lower bound to the stupidity and determined gullibility of the "Q"/"Deep State" believers. Or if there is, it has yet to be empirically determined.

Poster boy for denier awards when deep traitors are prosecuted

I'll bet that sounded just badass in your head when you typed it.

Unfortunately, it sounds less impressive, well, outside your head, given your long track record of willful gullibility and determined ignorance in various other threads. It's also not very convincing given your demonstrated willingness in this thread to cheerlead for actual corruption and treason, and your long history of personal dishonesty in pretending to act as a disinterested observer. All in your signature passive-aggressive, ham-fistedly "humorous" style.

But hey, I'm certainly willing to remain accountable for my claims. I'll be happy to acknowledge I was wrong if there's actual convictions in an actual court of law for the nefarious behaviors you've been claiming - well, actually, lapping up and regurgitating, but whatever.

A long time ago in this thread, you indicated you would be willing to admit this whole "Q/Deep state" stuff was wrong, if all the above didn't come down by the time Trump left office. Do you still hold to that?
 
I'll bet that sounded just badass in your head when you typed it.


We saw this in the 9/11 truth threads. It’s not so much that they rail against authoritarianism, it’s that these disaffected idiots want to hang people.
 
We saw this in the 9/11 truth threads. It’s not so much that they rail against authoritarianism, it’s that these disaffected idiots want to hang people.

If you are bored, you could wander along Bubba's post history. Over time he has endorsed every CT there is and got battered to death with facts. Eventually he found Q, a CT so vague that anything goes. And there he pitched his tent.

With q anon, bubba found a CT that is effectively a multi-tool that fits all events no matter what those events are.

Aliens invade the earth? Q predicted it. Aliens didn't invade the earth? Q predicted it.

I am minded of the infamous "event horizon of the formless" crapology.
 
Didn't "Five by Five" use to mean good radio reception or something?


Yup, used that as a simple scale in the military. Around the same time the CBers were using terms like "coming through with HOT FLUSH, baby!"

...right before we blew their receiver front ends with a 1 kW CW tuning signal on 27 MHz as they drove past our base...
 
Little white lie

Former Obama administration defense official Evelyn Farkas testified under oath that she lied during an MSNBC interview when she claimed to have evidence of alleged collusion, a newly declassified congressional transcript of her testimony shows. Farkas testified before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on June 26, 2017, as part of the committee’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election between Donald Trump and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Lawmakers keyed in on an appearance Farkas made on MSNBC on March 2, 2017, in which she urged intelligence community bureaucrats to disseminate within the government and potentially even leak to media any incriminating information they had about Trump or his aides.

They might “try to compromise those sources and methods,” Farkas alleged in the MSNBC interview. “And we would no longer have access to that intelligence.”

“Not enough was coming out into the open and I knew there was more,” Farkas claimed.

But Farkas sang a different tone under oath when questioned by lawmakers about what she actually “knew” about collusion.

“Why don’t we go back to that sentence that I just asked you about. It says ‘the Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about their staff dealing with Russians,” Gowdy said. “Well, how would you know what the U.S. government knew at that point? You didn’t work for it, did you?”

“I didn’t,” said Farkas, a former mid-level Russia analyst who left the federal government in 2015.

“Then how did you know?” Gowdy responded.

“I didn’t know anything,” Farkas said.

“Did you have information connecting the Trump campaign to the hack of the DNC?” Gowdy asked.

“No,” Farkas admitted.

“So when you say, ‘We knew,’ the reality is you knew nothing,” Gowdy asked later during the deposition.

“Correct,” Farkas responded.

Gowdy didn’t stop there.

“So when you say ‘knew,’ what you really meant was felt?” he asked.

“Correct,” Farkas answered.

“You didn’t know anything?” Gowdy continued.

“That’s correct,” Farkas responded.

https://www.dni.gov/files/HPSCI_Transcripts/2020-05-04-Evelyn_Farkas-MTR_Redacted.pdf
 
Former Obama administration defense official Evelyn Farkas testified under oath that she lied during an MSNBC interview when she claimed to have evidence of alleged collusion, a newly declassified congressional transcript of her testimony shows. Farkas testified before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on June 26, 2017, as part of the committee’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election between Donald Trump and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Lawmakers keyed in on an appearance Farkas made on MSNBC on March 2, 2017, in which she urged intelligence community bureaucrats to disseminate within the government and potentially even leak to media any incriminating information they had about Trump or his aides.

They might “try to compromise those sources and methods,” Farkas alleged in the MSNBC interview. “And we would no longer have access to that intelligence.”

“Not enough was coming out into the open and I knew there was more,” Farkas claimed.

But Farkas sang a different tone under oath when questioned by lawmakers about what she actually “knew” about collusion.

“Why don’t we go back to that sentence that I just asked you about. It says ‘the Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about their staff dealing with Russians,” Gowdy said. “Well, how would you know what the U.S. government knew at that point? You didn’t work for it, did you?”

“I didn’t,” said Farkas, a former mid-level Russia analyst who left the federal government in 2015.

“Then how did you know?” Gowdy responded.

“I didn’t know anything,” Farkas said.

“Did you have information connecting the Trump campaign to the hack of the DNC?” Gowdy asked.

“No,” Farkas admitted.

“So when you say, ‘We knew,’ the reality is you knew nothing,” Gowdy asked later during the deposition.

“Correct,” Farkas responded.

Gowdy didn’t stop there.

“So when you say ‘knew,’ what you really meant was felt?” he asked.

“Correct,” Farkas answered.

“You didn’t know anything?” Gowdy continued.

“That’s correct,” Farkas responded.

https://www.dni.gov/files/HPSCI_Transcripts/2020-05-04-Evelyn_Farkas-MTR_Redacted.pdf
And all that slosh demonstrates what? That Farkas knew nothing? Jeez.
 
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