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Q-Ray Commercial

Alkatran

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I was watching 'Space', and a commercial for the Q-ray came up! (The Q-Ray is a bracelet which apparently works through "Ionization technology" to improve your health "naturally")

I remembered reading about it and was surprised how much the commercial matched up with your general alternative medicine crap:

-There were at least 50 instances of someone saying "I worked for me!", "Just try it!", "I couldnt" be...
-There was no real explanation of how it works (although that's really par for the course for any TV commercial)
-LOOK, ATHLETES USE IT AND ATHELETES CAN'T BE WRONG!!!
-"The Q-Ray is based on knowledge that is centuries old..."

I was getting more and more pissed the longer I watched this commercial. It was selling for 20 or 30$.... :mad:
 
Yeah, I remember those from a while back. Saw them on Sci-Fi. The "ancient technology" thing combined with the lack of explanation was what really got me shaking my head. Should have commented when I saw one of my classmates wearing one.
 
Q-Ray

I cut and pasted this from the FTC's web site. If you think that these bracelette sellers are at it again you might call the FTC at 1- 877-FTC - HELP with the evidence.





Marketers of Q-Ray Ionized Bracelet Charged by FTC

FTC Seeks To Halt Deceptive Pain Relief Claims and Provide Consumer Refunds

The Federal Trade Commission has charged Illinois-based marketers of a purported pain- relief product called the Q-Ray Ionized Bracelet (Q-Ray Bracelet) with making false and unsubstantiated claims. In its complaint filed in federal district court, the FTC alleges that QT, Inc., Q-Ray, Company, and Bio-Metal, Inc., all operating out of one location in Elk Grove Village, Illinois, and their principals, Que Te Park and Jung Joo Park, violated the FTC Act by deceptively claiming that the Q-Ray Bracelet is a fast-acting effective treatment for various types of pain and that tests prove that the Q-Ray Bracelet relieves pain. In fact, according to the FTC, a recent study conducted by the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, Florida, shows that the Q-Ray Bracelet is no more effective than a placebo bracelet at relieving muscular and joint pain. A federal district court has issued a temporary restraining order (TRO) against the defendants. The TRO prohibits defendants from making any misleading or deceptive claims about the Q-Ray Bracelet and freezes defendants' assets.

The Q-Ray Bracelet is a C-shaped metal bracelet that the defendants claim is "ionized" through a secret process that gives it pain-relieving abilities. The defendants promote their product through a nationally televised 30-minute infomercial and on the Internet at www.qray.com, www.q-ray.com, and www.bio-ray.com. The defendants allege in their ads that their product works by supposedly altering the body's positive and negative energy to naturally relieve pain from a variety of ailments, including musculoskeletal pain, sciatica, headaches, tendinitis, and injuries. The Q-Ray Bracelet ranges in price from $49.95 to $249.95.

The defendants' infomercial advertises a risk-free money back guarantee that allows consumers to return the Q-Ray Bracelet for a full refund within 30 days if they are not satisfied. The FTC's complaint alleges, however, that consumers were not able to readily obtain a full refund of the purchase price if they returned the product within 30 days, as promised in the defendants' infomercials. In fact, according to the FTC, many unsatisfied purchasers were unable to obtain refunds despite repeatedly contacting the defendants. Furthermore, some purchasers who viewed the infomercial and went to the defendants' Web site to order the Q-Ray Bracelet were not given this 30-day satisfaction guarantee.

The FTC is seeking preliminary and permanent injunctive relief, including redress, to consumers who purchased the Q-Ray Bracelet.

The FTC vote to authorize the staff to file the complaint was 5-0. It was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division, on May 27, 2003.

NOTE: The Commission authorizes the filing of a complaint when it has "reason to believe" that the law has been or is being violated, and it appears to the Commission that a proceeding is in the public interest. The complaint is not a finding or ruling that the defendant actually has violated the law. The case will be decided by the court.

Copies of the complaint are available from the FTC's Web site at http://www.ftc.gov and also from the FTC's Consumer Response Center, Room 130, 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580. The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive, and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop, and avoid them. To file a complaint, or to get free information on any of 150 consumer topics, call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1 877-382-4357), or use the complaint form at http://www.ftc.gov. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft, and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad.
 
If you notice, the Q-Ray commercials currently airing do not make any claims at all! Watch carefully, they literally are not making any claims. That's how they're getting around the FTC ruling. They're relying on the fact that lots of people have already heard of the Q-Ray and enough will just automatically buy it when they see the commercial. And the testimonials are carefully edited to avoid any claims being inadvertently stated by limiting them to things like, "I wouldn't be without my Q-Ray," blah blah blah. I wish the FTC had more power to say, "You are forbidden to sell this thing, it's a rip-off," or better yet, toss the bastards in jail or an active volcano, but sadly all they can do is prevent them from making bogus claims in their advertising. It is frustrating.
 
I hate to defend scammers, but you're proposing that people should be jailed because other people have misleading ideas or beliefs about their product ? That's complete lunacy.
 
But who is responsible for the misleading ideas? They had to originate somewhere, didn't they?
 
-LOOK, ATHLETES USE IT AND ATHELETES CAN'T BE WRONG!!!

I love this bit. They claim it is used by many professional athletes, but the best they could do was Sandra Post.
 
Gr8wight said:
I love this bit. They claim it is used by many professional athletes, but the best they could do was Sandra Post.
Last year I was watching a White Sox game. A pitcher had bumped his hand or something and their trainer, Herm Schneider, came out to look at it. The camera zoomed in, and on the trainers wrist was a Q-Ray bracelet. I nearly became a Cubs fan... ok it wasn't that bad! I'll become a Cubs fan when Sylvia takes Randi's challenge. :p
 
On their website, they have a testimonial from Bill Kazmaier, the World's Strongest Man (1980-82). I know I'm impressed.

My brother-in-law believes in the q-ray. According to him, if it doesn't work on one arm, you just put it on the other arm and it magically starts to work! How does the q-ray differentiate between right and left arms? And why does it care? He gave a q-ray bracelet to his dad (my father-in-law) for his 70th birthday. My father-in-law wore it for the rest of the b-day party, but then took it off.

Thanks to the q-ray, however, I found randi.org. I googled it at the time of FIL's birthday and one of the hits was one of Randi's commentaries. So the q-ray did do some good after all.
 
Lisa Simpson said:
On their website, they have a testimonial from Bill Kazmaier, the World's Strongest Man (1980-82). I know I'm impressed.


He's the one who died of brain cancer, right?
 
Gr8wight said:
He's the one who died of brain cancer, right?

No. He appeared at a fitness expo in Pasadena in February of this year, so I think he still amongst the living.
 
Sorry, I think I was confusing him with Lyle Alzado. Your comment has lost its incredible irony for me now.
 
Francois Tremblay said:
I hate to defend scammers, but you're proposing that people should be jailed because other people have misleading ideas or beliefs about their product ? That's complete lunacy.
The way the commercials are now, because of the FTC ruling, yes, it is the consumer who is deceiving himself by thinking, "Aren't those those braclets that cure you of arthritis/depression/hemarrhoids/whatever?" But originally, the Q-Ray people made all sorts of wild claims, thereby ripping people off (and likely causing people to forgo seeking proper medical attention in the process). But the FTC can only stop them from making unsubstantiated claims. So yes, I do believe scammers are criminals and should be jailed.

I find it interesting that in Dante's Inferno (an extrapolation of Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics), those who commited fraud occupied lower positions in Hell than even murderers who were in Circle 7, while Circle 8 was reserved for the fraudulent:
-- Fortune Tellers, Diviners, Astrologers (even back then, it was known that this was crap)
-- Grafters
-- Hypocrites
-- Thieves
-- Evil counselors
-- Impersonators, counterfeiters, false witnesses
 

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