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Putin challenges Biden to Online Live Debate

That's funny. I didn't notice any change in Kim's global status after that meeting. Did the Aussies start fawning over him or something?
I did say "unjustifiable". It was for home consumption.

The T****/Kim meetings lowered the US's standing in international politics significantly. Only David Windsor hanging around with Hitler was marginally worse. (Whoops, Godwin!)
 
The general opinion here was "You have got to be ******* joking, mate! That prick?! Why are you being seen with him?!!" We were talking to Kim... ;)

I don't blame you. I felt the same way. Just watching him on TV made me want to take a shower...and not the good kind with my husband.
 
No, not the Aussies. Just the leader of the most powerful nation on earth.

So.... It didn't elevate Kim's status globally? Make up your mind.

Meanwhile, Russia is one of two nations with a nuclear arsenal big enough to destroy human civilization. They have one of five voting seats on the UN Security Council. Most of the western military industrial complex is already postured against Russian aggression.

Vladimir Putin doesn't need Biden's help to reach the peak of global status. He's been there ever since he seized the reins of power in the Russian federation.

Trying to pretend that he's somehow less important than, say, General Hurley, depending on Biden's attention for relevance, is both contrafactual and counter productive.

Now, if PM Morrison were to challenge Biden to a debate, it would be a different story. A non voting member of the UNSC getting a televised debate with a voting member would be a HUGE boost in global prestige.
 
So.... It didn't elevate Kim's status globally? Make up your mind.

Meanwhile, Russia is one of two nations with a nuclear arsenal big enough to destroy human civilization. They have one of five voting seats on the UN Security Council. Most of the western military industrial complex is already postured against Russian aggression.

Vladimir Putin doesn't need Biden's help to reach the peak of global status. He's been there ever since he seized the reins of power in the Russian federation.

Trying to pretend that he's somehow less important than, say, General Hurley, depending on Biden's attention for relevance, is both contrafactual and counter productive.
Probably not actually true. Plenty of other nations now have significantly big enough nuclear arsenals to render the globe completely uninhabitable. Just that the USA and Russia can do this many, many times over. But just once will be more than enough. More is overkill. ;)

Putin is all that you say, but only by dint of being the most ruthless little billionaire warlord among a set of ruthless little billionaire warlords who currently own the Russian federation. He is a jumped-up robber-baron and a very nasty and vindictive little KGB **** who cares nothing for democracy or diplomacy. He is certainly not a respected global diplomat or statesman.

So any "international debate" would only serve to give Putin prestige he doesn't merit. Unless you think just being the leader of Russia automatically warrants prestige?


Now, if PM Morrison were to challenge Biden to a debate, it would be a different story. A non voting member of the UNSC getting a televised debate with a voting member would be a HUGE boost in global prestige.
Seriously, Morrison (known locally as "Scomo", or "Scotty From Marketing") is a bumbling oxygen-thief, not even a good politician let alone a diplomat. We winced from behind our hands they way he sucked up to T****. Soooo embarrassing. His time in the position is coming to an end soon, we hope.
 
That's funny. I didn't notice any change in Kim's global status after that meeting. Did the Aussies start fawning over him or something?

No, not the Aussies. Just the leader of the most powerful nation on earth.

So.... It didn't elevate Kim's status globally? Make up your mind.
Meanwhile, Russia is one of two nations with a nuclear arsenal big enough to destroy human civilization. They have one of five voting seats on the UN Security Council. Most of the western military industrial complex is already postured against Russian aggression.

Vladimir Putin doesn't need Biden's help to reach the peak of global status. He's been there ever since he seized the reins of power in the Russian federation.

Trying to pretend that he's somehow less important than, say, General Hurley, depending on Biden's attention for relevance, is both contrafactual and counter productive.

Now, if PM Morrison were to challenge Biden to a debate, it would be a different story. A non voting member of the UNSC getting a televised debate with a voting member would be a HUGE boost in global prestige.

Read the highlighted parts. Pick out the part where I said anything about Kim's status "being globally elevated" or not. Then tell me why I need to "make up my mind". Then pick out the part where I said anything relating to the rest of your post.
 
The fact that we have a president who fairly confronts an autocratic leader who regularly puts hits out on his own people, and put bounties on the heads of US soldiers is what a responsible leader should do. It is just diametrically different from our previous leader who put his ego first and his country last.

If there is any leader of a country that Putin should debate, Ukraine certainly tops there list, followed by Georgia.
 
The fact that we have a president who fairly confronts an autocratic leader who regularly puts hits out on his own people, and put bounties on the heads of US soldiers is what a responsible leader should do. It is just diametrically different from our previous leader who put his ego first and his country last.

If there is any leader of a country that Putin should debate, Ukraine certainly tops there list, followed by Georgia.

I would rather see him debate Navalny.
 

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