Public Education is a Socialist Monopoly

[drkitten]

I mean, if all you've got to offer in the way of a rebuttal is a childish taunt that backfires by demonstrating ignorance on your own part...

.. then you're probably a right-wing dittohead?

 

[Malcolm Kirkpatrick]

Doyle's point is not supported by his data, yet he represents it as if it did. This is not even a matter of incompetence; the only possibilities are deliberate misrepresentation and insanity. So "cherry-picking" is perfectly accurate, and so is "liar". Both apply to Jonathan, too, as over half of his posts demonstrate.

Both may apply to the numerous counter-factual assertions I have disputed in this forum. I applied "disingenuous" (academicese for "liar") once, to someone who used that slur first. Otherwise, I suppose that people make honest mistakes.

Doyle's statistics support his point, seems to me. They could be stronger.

I think this discussion is played out.

 

[MattusMaximus]

4. I did not "make up" the 25% figure.

Prove it. Provide your source.

 

[JonathanQuick]

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You are not going to get many logical fallacies past the people on this forum. I recommend you leave behind the red herrings and well poisoning and present some real stuff and we will debate it.

Indeed, I am so very impressed with the profanity - one heel takes God's name in vain - the relentless condescension, the hypocrisy, and the non-sequiturs.

Incidently, you post like other Limbaugh/Beck/Coulter clones on JREF. (and here I thought conservatives were opposed to cloning.)

glenn

You post like Air America used to broadcast. I mean, before they went bankrupt and folded up.

And your citation is... cherry picked. But YOUR cherry picking is quite all right.
It's just when somebody ELSE'S cherry picking isn't to your liking that you condemn it.

IF public education is so very wonderful, as teachers' unions claim, then let the people choose.
Give them vouchers, or "choice." What are unions afraid of?
The answer is obvious.

 

[Jeff Corey]

"Aluminium (SIC) pole." - Jeff Corey

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6607191#post6607191

Brilliant. No, really. The world has so very much to learn from you.

What is your problem, Mr Oxymoron? Do you not know that there are two different ways to spell aluminium. Or are you just someone who just can't provide data for their false statement?

 

[Shalamar]

There's a lot of that going around. Perhaps if we return to our original topic we could moderate the tone. I would appreciate an attempt by participants to this discussion to answer the questions I asked earlieroes society benefit from a State presence in the education business? The nutrition business? Mail and parcel delivery business? Broadcast news business? Why not government shoe stores, etc?

What general principals relate to a determination, for any industry, of its classification or position on the continuum, and how do these imply a State presence in the education industry?

Those can be good questions, but may be better served in the politics section. You'll get a different range of people there if you start a thread about it.

 

[Allen773]

Every American benefits from the US government in some way, whether they know it or not.

 

[Malcolm Kirkpatrick]

Every American benefits from the US government in some way, whether they know it or not.

And every American is harmed by the government in some way, whether s/he knows it or not. So each of us may assess whether the benefit is worth the damage, and how to allocate costs and benefits. To the extent that any individual hopes to influence government policy, this becomes a question about the role of organized violence (the State) in human affairs. In abstract, it's likely that the costs of a State presence in the education industry, beyond what it contributes to, say, the clothing industry in a market economy, exceed the benefits, to most citizens.