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PSYOPS against Venezuela ?

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Eva Gollinger, the author that exposed the US involvement in the Coup attempt 2002 in Venezuela, wrote a little article.
Very intersting.

A secret document of the US Army National Ground Intelligence Center, recently declassified in part, through the application of the US Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), confirms that the Pentagon's most powerful team for psychological operations is employing its forces against Venezuela.1 The document, dating from the year 2006, analyses the border situation between Colombia and Venezuela. It was drafted by the US Army's 4th Psychological Operations Group (Airborne) (4th PSYOP Group (A) or 4th POG) and the US Army National Ground Intelligence Center, a fact that thus reaffirms that the same psychological warfare team operates in the region against Venezuela.
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http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4296

Im dont know how much of it is true, what do you think?
 
Dictator Cheney said:
Im dont know how much of it is true, what do you think?
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I think the quotes she gives don't support her theory. She quotes a report saying that the FARC are doing more operations along the Colombia-Venezuela border, which is almost certainly true. She uses this to imply that our goal is to push the FARC into Venezuela, rather than that simply being an effect of operations against FARC. But the quote doesn't actually indicate anything of the sort.
 
Ziggurat said:
I think the quotes she gives don't support her theory. She quotes a report saying that the FARC are doing more operations along the Colombia-Venezuela border, which is almost certainly true. She uses this to imply that our goal is to push the FARC into Venezuela, rather than that simply being an effect of operations against FARC. But the quote doesn't actually indicate anything of the sort.
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If FARC is going into Venezuela it is only because Chavez gives them safe haven there. Venezuela, after all, funds FARC to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.
 
Maybe Dictator Cheney is part of this PSYOP, he's here to make Chavez supporters look dumb?
 
Psych Warfare has nothing to do with psychics like the member who stated the Remote Viewing crack.

Psychological warfare basically involves doing things to mess with your opponent's head.


INRM
 
WildCat said:
If FARC is going into Venezuela it is only because Chavez gives them safe haven there. Venezuela, after all, funds FARC to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.
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I don't think that's true, actually. I assume you're referring to the intercepted email in a laptop belonging to FARC?

This article seems dumb to me, though. In addition to what Ziggurat mentioned, the "coincidental" connection between the 4th Psychological Operations Group being deployed to Colombia and Bush Admin. accusations against Chavez doesn't really make much sense. Apparently she thinks the battalion's deployment was necessary to make such allegations. But that's not what they do, and they wouldn't really be of much use in that regard anyway. If the U.S. administration was looking to forge evidence to pin to Chavez, it would be a CIA op, certainly. There'd be too much risk using the Army for that kind of thing, and it wouldn't be an especially good use of resources.
 
INRM said:
Psych Warfare has nothing to do with psychics like the member who stated the Remote Viewing crack.

Psychological warfare basically involves doing things to mess with your opponent's head.


INRM
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The main use in Colombia would be in trying to reduce support for FARC among the civilian population, through propaganda mostly, rather than messing with FARC's heads. They'd rather just let the Colombian Army kill FARC in whatever way they can.
 
applecorped said:
I think this should be in Conspiracy Theories.
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dudalb said:
The Chavez worshippers are getting desperate.
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Pardalis said:
Maybe Dictator Cheney is part of this PSYOP, he's here to make Chavez supporters look dumb?
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Donal said:
He's going the right way for a medal in that case.
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Do you have any reason to doubt that the USA use propaganda in an attempt to destabilize Chavez's Venezuela?
If the PSYOPS are actually better at their job than for instance dudalb with his tedious knee-jerk reactions remains to be seen.
Congratulations, DC. You provide the forum with a piece of information, and the right-wingers aren't able to come up with more than insults.
 
You know why nobody talks of anti-American PSYOP operations in America?











Freedom of expression.
 
I served in the 7th Psyop Group, the Reserve counterpart to the active-duty 4th POG. Although "reserve" is misleading: there was enough going on in the world to keep both units mostly active throughout the 90s. For example, my unit had all our Psyop Specialists on a regular rotation through Bosnia and Haiti during my period of service.

Anyway, there are some important regulations governing the use of U.S. Army Psyop forces. The top two are "always tell the truth" and "never target your own or allied forces".

Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if the U.S. government lied and targeted its own and friendly people. It's just that the government wouldn't use the 4th or 7th POGs to do it, not without whistleblowing, court martials, and other major, serious problems.

The presence of Psyop units in Colombia indicate a fairly mundane, straightforward war-fighting strategy that makes use of propaganda tactics against enemy forces, in support of more conventional military tactics.

It may also, to a lesser degree, indicate Psyop elements acting in conjunction with Army Engineers and Civil Affairs units to carry out a "nation-building" mission. Psyop units are great for this kind of aid work, since they usually have a high number of linguists and cultural and communications experts (since that's basically what a Psyop Specialist is, really: a cultural communications expert).
 
Ziggurat said:
I think the quotes she gives don't support her theory. She quotes a report saying that the FARC are doing more operations along the Colombia-Venezuela border, which is almost certainly true. She uses this to imply that our goal is to push the FARC into Venezuela, rather than that simply being an effect of operations against FARC. But the quote doesn't actually indicate anything of the sort.
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thx, good point :)
 
WildCat said:
If FARC is going into Venezuela it is only because Chavez gives them safe haven there. Venezuela, after all, funds FARC to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.
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and the evidence for this is?
(attention, your laptop data is not good enough for a court)
 
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