Psychological disorders and conspiracies.

Wow, funny that you mention that. I just exposed one the worst twoofers as a clear sufferer of NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) Just from his posts and his use of "The Secret" I outed him and he wasn't too happy.

It's only a 2 page thread and you can read it here:

http://p087.ezboard.com/fstillersforumfrm18.showMessage?topicID=1529.topic

I won't quote from it as on that board there is no Rule [8].

The dude who is the flaming twoofer is "fmrfire". Most everyone who responds to him is sane.

He has so many "Stundified" quotes that I wouldn't know where to start. His biggest problem though is that he has NO original thought whatsoever. He basically starts 5-10 threads per day with an Alec Jones story or a you tube video and a one liner like:

"wake up sheeple, can't you see the truth right in front of your faces?"
 
Having been raised by and formerly married to those with NPD, I can say that some truthers I've seen definitely fit the diagnostic criteria.
 
It’s funny you should mention it. I was debating (if you can call it that) a conspiracy theorist a few days ago who I thought might have narcissistic personality disorder. His posts were page long affairs which practically exclusively covered the topic of himself (in the third person, no less). He would go into great detail about how enlightened and sophisticated he was and how everyone else in the forum (including his numerous fellow conspiracy theorists) were all “monkeys”. From the style of his prose, he seemed to be under the impression he was a great poet or perhaps something akin to Confucius (or, most likely, the best of both). He sent me a message seemingly explaining how he considered himself to be some kind of Jesus-like character. It was reasonably sickening.
 
Yes, this is definitely the appeal of 9-11 Denial; the feeling of being one of the cognoscenti, the chosen few who can see what's really going on in the world.
 
Par said:
....were all “monkeys”. From the style of his prose, he seemed to be under the impression he was a great poet or perhaps something akin to Confucius (or, most likely, the best of both).
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Was it Rick Siegel?
 
Here is an explanation of a well known CB (conspiracy believer) on some discussion we have had. It is quite revealing.

"What you may not understand though, is that I have been given the
task of Re-educating the Jury pool so when they are called to go to trail.
Those Jurors will have have had complete access to the evidence and educated in the tactics of suppression .

What many people fail to realize is that they are above the Law.
My job is to give the juror more power.
To let them knwo their rights and to defeat a system of misuses and abuses
that our founding fathers warned us about.

I am only one, but I am one, I cannot do everything,but I can do something, What I can do, I do and do,do................with the help of God, I will do.


My response was, OK ..... don't let the mother ship smack you on the ass on your way out.
 
mjd1982 said:
Now what this relies on is very simple. A populace which is, in broad enough swathes, lazy, ignorant, and intransigent. Thus they will not care to educate themselves as to the truth, which is highly evident upon the most cursory inspection, and will refuse to believe it when it is placed in front of their very eyes; they will be intransigent and accept any subterfuge to not have to accept such simple truths, since they conflict with the lessons they have held most dear- such as those from school, media and cultural ideology. In this way, which as stated relies on ignorance, intransigence and subterfuge of the public, the powerful minority can do whatever they like.

Now... Given that these characteristics are such a blight and such a danger, when they get evinced on this thread, where they are, so overwhelmingly evident, it is understandable that I would get riled, and contemptuous of people who exhibit characteristics that are surely as worthy of contempt as anything could possibly be. As I have said many times, I have no problem, none at all with people disgreeing, if they can do so via rational counter-debate. This does not happen here, or hardly at all. It could not be a more evident example of the acceptance of any subterfuge in order not to have to swallow an unpalatable reality.
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peteweaver said:
This is a psychological disorder known as malignant narcissism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism

Has anyone encountered a 'truther' who display's such traits ?
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No, never - do you think there are any?

Dave
 
Careful, all.

Unless you are a qualified psychiatrist, you should not diagnose other people with psychiatric disorders.

You may be right, but without a proper diagnosis, under proper circumstances, you will only give them an easy out, as well as weaken the rational response else given.
 
Larsen: Sage advice, of course, but personally I only consider this thread to be a bit of fun.
 
I FOUND A GREAT WEB SITE THAT DEALS WITH » Psychological disorders and conspiracies.

Unfortunately I can not inform you of it, since it is my own.

Apparently, if one has information that may save billions of lives in the long run, you can NOT share this information with others, at least not directly.

Oh well, so much for eternal life.
 
Have you considered Stokholm syndrome? I believe that Stokholm syndrome is a natural response for some victims of terror. Think about it , 9/11 and other terrorist attacks isn't only about the victims and their direct family and friends but its purpose is to instill fear among the general population. Depending on the depth of ones emotional response, this can trigger a classic "fight or flight" response where some people are eager as hell to fight (bomb somebody!) or "flight". I think many conspiracy theorists attempt to blame the victims and take on the ideology of the terrorists themselves in a subconscious effort to make themselves safe. It's similar to battered wife syndrome or the response children have to abusive parents. If they take their side, this will make them safe in the end. Stockholm syndrome is so strong, that hostages have paid the legal expenses of their capturers. 9/11 conspiracy theorist are doing a similar thing in a round about sort of way: Never blame the terrorists or deny the threat, and take on all the grievances of the abusers and this is a defense strategy to minimize a perceived threat. In a very real way, conspiracy theorists and their delusions are victims of terrorism.
 
CFLarsen said:
Careful, all.

Unless you are a qualified psychiatrist, you should not diagnose other people with psychiatric disorders.

You may be right, but without a proper diagnosis, under proper circumstances, you will only give them an easy out, as well as weaken the rational response else given.
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I didn't say it was a psychiatric disorder, but a psychological one...

I'm not saying that any conspiracists are insane.

I'm just interested in the psychology. I've seen some conspiracists who exhibit extremely narcissistic traits.
 
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