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Psychics and Missing People

KellyJ said:
I'll try you again in a bit.

So many good ideas flowing here.

I'm still a bit torn between having a clean site and the forum since this one exists.

I believe that I have caught up on older posts with questions for me or other items I need to comment on. If I forgot one, remind me, and accept my apology.

I'm taking a break from the PC...been on it all day long. I'll be back later on.

This is what it's all about...working together for a common cause.

Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. (not literally, of course!)
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HOly crap that was fast! You gotta give me time to turn my ringer on!

Ok, best times to call me are after 11:30pm CST or between 9am CST and 1:00pm CST.
 
Good, take a rest, Kelly. You've had a long day.

BTW, I've never been more proud to be part of the JREF family than today.

Kisses to the girls, and handshakes to the guys.

Bravo.
 
KellyJ said:
I'll try you again in a bit.

I'm still a bit torn between having a clean site and the forum since this one exists.
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Kelly, et al,

You should definitely have a forum at your new site. The kinds of things people will post there will be quite different from what is posted here.

BTW, you guys rule! If I had something worthwhile to offer, I would. Once it's up, maybe I'll join the forum.
 
ObscureReferenceMan said:
Kelly, et al,

You should definitely have a forum at your new site. The kinds of things people will post there will be quite different from what is posted here.

BTW, you guys rule! If I had something worthwhile to offer, I would. Once it's up, maybe I'll join the forum.
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I Agree. The JREF forums are a very well established and productive community, but while there is an overlap of intention between the JREF forum and a forum that would be on the new website, they are two different motivations and two different approaches.

I think a forum, properly moderated, on that site would be a very amazing thing, especially considering we could build an online community of those who have missing loved ones that would be not only productive and helpful, but well grounded.

It would be a very powerful forum to read.
 
KellyJ (and the rest here)--

I would like your permission (even though it is public) to print out this thread for use in two of my classes. Anyone who would prefer I not use their comments (I'll probably change names anyway, since something like "fowlsound" might be seen as distracting from the serious nature), please let me know (PM is fine).

Katachresis, I second your comment; this is a good thing to be part of.
 
Mercutio said:
KellyJ (and the rest here)--

I would like your permission (even though it is public) to print out this thread for use in two of my classes. Anyone who would prefer I not use their comments (I'll probably change names anyway, since something like "fowlsound" might be seen as distracting from the serious nature), please let me know (PM is fine).

Katachresis, I second your comment; this is a good thing to be part of.
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You have my permission as long as you change my name to "The Exhalted God-Like Hotness That Is David."
 
Fowlsound, CFLarsen, The_Fire, you guys just keep giving me more reasons to admire you all. KellyJ, I think you've come to the right place.

Roadtoad gave me an idea. I live in a border town, (Windsor, Ontario, North America's busiest crossing) and there's a truck-stop just around the corner from where I work. I'd be happy to put up a flier there, if you'd like. Not much, I know, but anything to help.
 
HeyLeroy said:
Fowlsound, CFLarsen, The_Fire, you guys just keep giving me more reasons to admire you all. KellyJ, I think you've come to the right place.

Roadtoad gave me an idea. I live in a border town, (Windsor, Ontario, North America's busiest crossing) and there's a truck-stop just around the corner from where I work. I'd be happy to put up a flier there, if you'd like. Not much, I know, but anything to help.
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Heh. I used to live in Detroit.

You should also contact the border patrol and ask if they will accept a photo of the missing person and watch for them.
 
Mercutio said:
KellyJ (and the rest here)--

I would like your permission (even though it is public) to print out this thread for use in two of my classes. Anyone who would prefer I not use their comments (I'll probably change names anyway, since something like "fowlsound" might be seen as distracting from the serious nature), please let me know (PM is fine).

Katachresis, I second your comment; this is a good thing to be part of.
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I don't have a problem with it. I am curious though, as to what type of class it is that this thread would be discussed.

On another interelated topic:

I sent my inquiry/request out to the families of the missing. I've had several positive responses and indications that stories will be forthcoming.
 
fowlsound said:
Heh. I used to live in Detroit.

You should also contact the border patrol and ask if they will accept a photo of the missing person and watch for them.
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Good idea. I have friends who work at Customs on this side of the border.
 
Web stuff

KellyJ,
Hello and welcome to the forum! As a father of three, I can only imagine what you've had to go through in the last few years. I'd love to help in any little way I can. Fowl, Larsen - I'm a graphic/web designer, so if there's anything I can help with, let me know. I'm less technically minded than creative - I know a little scripting (for forms, etc - just enough to be dangerous), but I've been a graphic designer for almost 20 years.

A note on the domain name - whatever you decide on, if someone thinks of another domain worth snapping up before someone else gets their hands on it (psychicsarelyingfilthyfraudsandshouldrotinthelowestdepthsofhell.com has a nice ring to it), you can always buy it, too, and redirect to the main site. Domains certainly are cheap enough now.
 
Okay, as soon as I replace an ink cartridge, we're in business.

Expect a report, Kelly, as soon as I can get something up and running.

Damn, I'm proud of this crowd.
 
Psychics are not the only ones who prey on these people, so I don't know if psychicpredators.com or anything with psychics in the title is a good idea.

The site should also touch on predatory private investigators, lawyers, media, etc.

I know as JREF members, and looking at the topic we are in and so on, we tend to focus more on paranormal frauds, but the web site in question is going to be focused on protecting these people from ALL frauds. Right?
 
As far as I understood, this website is specifically about the psychic frauds.
 
So I'm thinking about content a little bit here.

I'm kind of imagining a site that works in conjunction with Kelly's and other missing persons sites as a resource for support for

1. Persons that have a missing loved one and are considering whether to let psychic's help in the investigation or not.

Facts, informational articles in general about how psychics don't do anything useful, articles relating stories by victims of psychics, lots and lots of links to other good information already out there. Stuff aimed at the general public as an audience, and as family members of missing people as an audience.

and

2. Skeptics that wish to work as support for 1 by actively debunking psychics attempting to prey on 1, as well as doing some community work promoting the word in general that psychics are fakes.

Articles about debunking (how to kind of stuff) psychic detectives, perhaps. Simple test protocols, maybe? Sample letter templates for sending to news media, elected officials, police chiefs, etc, for use when news releases come out that "xxx psychic is currently working closely with the xxx police department on xxx case". Lots and lots of links to other good information out there, and to here.

Just kind of brainstorming here. Feel free to pick this all apart. Is the forum in support of audience 1 or 2? Or both?

Meg
 
Choice 1 seems most in line with what Kelly and I have talked about.

I think we should stick with that.;
 
Luke T. said:
Psychics are not the only ones who prey on these people, so I don't know if psychicpredators.com or anything with psychics in the title is a good idea.

The site should also touch on predatory private investigators, lawyers, media, etc.

I know as JREF members, and looking at the topic we are in and so on, we tend to focus more on paranormal frauds, but the web site in question is going to be focused on protecting these people from ALL frauds. Right?
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Luke: I thought the same as fowl, that the site was to be only about "psychics". And to expand a bit, psychics are being singled out here because unlike PIs and lawyers, -all- psychics are per definitions predators. Of course, I do understand that it could be a good thing to warn about the "bad apples" of other groups as well, but I would think that for now, let's focus on the worst of the worst, and see if we can put in that other stuff later.

And even though I agree that such a site could touch upon the dangers of f.ex. a bad PI, I think that as long as the main issue (i.e. 90% or more of the content) is about the dangers of psychics, this justifies a domain name with "psychic" in it.


Edited to put in quote from Luke, so it's clear who I'm responding to. And to fix some bad language.
 
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