Psychics and Missing People

Kelly said:
Recieved via email from an Australian acquantaince who hosts a site featuring missing persons from AU:

"You unknowingly helped me alot a few weeks back, I did a newspaper interview and was then contacted by three psychics so your strong views and advice about them really helped me to fend them off. One of them left me open-mouthed - he was enquiring about how much reward was offered about various cases as he felt that would "motivate" his psychic abilities. I told him very clearly what he could do with his "abilities"! "
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Hi Kelly! (Haven't seen you about for a few days - I hope you are well.) It's great that you receive feedback like this, showing positive results from your work.

The bolded quote just goes to show the whole "I couldn't apply for Randi's million because I can't use my 'powers' for profit" excuse is utter stinking BS.

I'd be interested to know your contact's website's link.
 
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize anyone was writing to me. Roadtoad, this particular case is such that... it isn't a rush-to-solve type of thing, so taking the time out to ask a medium is absolutely not affecting how much time is spent on anything else.

In other cases, I totally agree. However, the site is designed to bring an experience to you - a medium, a ghost hunter, a psychic. Whomever.

And yes, to you mediums have been thoroughly debunked. Not to many.
 
RemieV said:
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize anyone was writing to me. Roadtoad, this particular case is such that... it isn't a rush-to-solve type of thing, so taking the time out to ask a medium is absolutely not affecting how much time is spent on anything else.

In other cases, I totally agree. However, the site is designed to bring an experience to you - a medium, a ghost hunter, a psychic. Whomever.

And yes, to you mediums have been thoroughly debunked. Not to many.
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They have been debunked to any who are willing to look at the facts. This is why we go by what is right, rather than what the mob wants.
 
Roadtoad said:
They have been debunked to any who are willing to look at the facts. This is why we go by what is right, rather than what the mob wants.
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They've certainly been debunked to me. And I used to be a total believer - a practicing Spiritualist who sat in a mediumship development circle.
 
Tricia and WS and ...

Kelly, i apologize for this being off-topic, but i read your comment re knowing Tricia G personally, and i wanted to be sure that you saw this.

today i made a comment in WS that they didn't agree with and her mods A) deleted the comment, B) PM'd me a *warning* that i could not read because they then C) blocked me from viewing ALL forums.

the comment, in a Natalie Holloway forum, was how some people apparantly are recruited by Aruba to help Aruba maintain a good image. that was it. that was what i posted that got censored.

and when i reposted explaining that i didn't mean that WebSleuths recruited people, that i meant Aruba was doing so (it was a joke to begin with), WindChime deleted the whole post and blocked me from the site with NO warning.

and they won't respond to my emails asking for an explanation.

since then, in searching for contact info for her in Google, i've come across many comments in other forums about Tricia and WebSleuths being very censoring and delete-happy if people don't agree with her or her mods. seems to be quite an unfair way of running something called a "forum", when the word "forum" in fact implies objectivity and freedom of speech and thought.

what's her deal?
 
I've just been blacklisted from WebSleuths. (wonder how big THIS club is...).

does that count?


at first i was pissed, but when i stop and consider some of the moronic posts that fit their criteria, i should thank her.

right?



CptColumbo said:
But we want to do something personally that leads to being balcklisted. Automatic is no fun.
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Hello jfk,

Tricia is a very kind and compassionate person. She does let her mods run the board as they see fit for the most part, is my understanding. I don't always agree with them, but in general, they seem to do a good job. Keep in mind that for the most part, none of my posts are controversial, or could be perceived as such, and I don't often venture into other subforums that do not have to do with missing persons.

What is it that you wanted of me in respect to this situation? Please email it or PM it to me as this is very OT both on this thread and in this forum.

Thank you,
Kelly
 
A recent thing in Idaho/eastern WA has been troubling. He abducted and killed some kids. A fully confessed life-sentence type of Bad Guy is getting all literary on his important self, has cryptography on his side, and is plea-bargaining his laptop. I gather that his laptop is probably full of evidence, and his codes are too hard to crack.

There is something sick, deeply and weirdly wrong, about some of our fellow citizens. Not very many, but there is some definite thing that some of these folks think and do that just about 99.999 other percentiles don't do. Yes, we must find and confine them. With all due diligence.

Can we also think about prevention and help before the fact? It's hard to even start with that, without becoming a Nanny or a teacher or some sort of thing. The day-to-day police force doesn't think of this too much, their hands are full with other things.
 
I hate to bust in mildly off-topic but, as an aside, law enforcement is being just about as helpful as the mediums were in my uncle's missing persons case.

Texas Equusearch was kind enough to find an officer willing to take my report by phone. Unfortunately, it's been three weeks and despite multiple messages, he has not called me back.

I'm trying a bunch of other directions now, but honestly, I'm running low on ideas.
 
Remie,

You are experiencing what most of us go through now: the lack of help in missing person's cases. It's such a battle, but it shouldn't be.

If you would, please, email me your details as in your PM. It is too detailed for a PM and I find it much easier to converse via email.

I will be glad to help you to the best of my abilility.

Kelly

BPScooter: Don't we all wish there was a solution for this craziness?
 
This woman suddenly popped up out of nowhere. I've never heard of her. She's registering and posting at numerous missing persons' forum, offering her "help".

She has a website with a focus on missing persons, which irks me to no end.

Oddly enough, she also retains a full time job.

Can anyone pursue?
 
I posted the request on the Denver Skeptics Meet-up board as well.
 
I notice she's also a member of Unity. I guess when the computer doesn't work and the psychic ability doesn't help, you pray and pray and pay...I mean pray.
 
Kelly said:
This woman suddenly popped up out of nowhere. I've never heard of her. She's registering and posting at numerous missing persons' forum, offering her "help".

She has a website with a focus on missing persons, which irks me to no end.

Oddly enough, she also retains a full time job.

Can anyone pursue?
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Ms. Engleman is based in Corpus Christi. The website of the Corpus Christi Police Department lists ten or so open missing persons cases and has info on each for anyone interested. It would seem logical that if Ms. Engleman has provided any useful help to the police, she would start at home. Inquiries about her can be sent to Chief Bryan Smith, Corpus Christi Police Department, 321 John Sartain St., Corpus Christi, TX 78401, (361) 886-2603.

Let me know if anyone finds anything I couldn't have guessed.
 
Thanks, all.

I have sent an email to the Chief of Police in CC to inquire. I'd still like to find a skeptic to pursue her claims directly, if possible.
 
The chief already wrote back:

"Kelly,

Good evening... I was just perusing my e-mails on a Sunday night, in preparation for another busy week, and I ran across your message. I am very sympathetic of your situation, and I as a law enforcement officer, I am very concerned about the plight of missing persons. Now for the specifics regarding your e-mail:

No, I do not personally know this individual who has claimed to have assisted law enforcement in missing person cases. However, I can tell you that there has been no indication that a paranormal "expert" has ever assisted in solving a CCPD case.

I will do more research and get back to you... but I share your concern about the false hope provided by such paranormal "experts." "

I'd love to know what the "psychic" would say when asked if she's worked with the CC police.
 
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