Psychics and Missing People

Looks like our email pal Tammie was featured in this week's commentary which exposed Carla Baron. Way to go, Tammie!
 
Kelly said:
Looks like our email pal Tammie was featured in this week's commentary which exposed Carla Baron. Way to go, Tammie!
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I saw that -- it made my day. I doubt it will dissuade Baron's hard-core supporters (some of whom, sadly, may also be her victims), but it may help set an upper limit to how far she will rise in public stature.

Have I ever mentioned I'm not all that fond of Carla Baron?
 
Stellafane said:
I saw that -- it made my day. I doubt it will dissuade Baron's hard-core supporters (some of whom, sadly, may also be her victims), but it may help set an upper limit to how far she will rise in public stature.

Have I ever mentioned I'm not all that fond of Carla Baron?
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I would have never guessed, Stellafane. :rolleyes:
 
rjh01 said:
... And the best.

... And the longest.

Covers a wide range of topics while still always on topic. Guess this is a sign of respect.
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We've had a few derailments along the way, but it's stayed on task well, considering the length.
 
The headline should read: "Sylvia Browne is Wrong Again", but it is highly unlikely we'll see that happen.

There were 3 boys who were all about the same age range (19-20) and who disappeared within the same 9 month period. They'd all been missing for more than 5 years. Their names: Jeffrey Ben, Ryan Katcher, and Jason Jolkowski.

I ended up meeting Jeffrey's mom in person, and became very close to Ryan's mom via phone and email. Jeffrey's remains were found in March. He was murdered. I don't know if they'll ever solve it.

Today, Ryan's remains were found. It is unlikely that we will ever know exactly what happened to him, but one could guess that he accidentally drove into a very deep and cold lake while intoxicated.

Now Jason is the only one left "standing".

Numerous people are reading the blog after searching for info on Ryan. Many are searching for his name and SB's. They're wondering if she was right about him.

She was not. Is that a surprise? Of course not.

She said his body was down inside some sort of hole or large pipe in Indiana. The lake in which he was found is not that far from his home in IL.

Now before you say that she had something right because she said he was dead, please keep in mind that she says that on all of them. (That I know of) The only one she said was alive, was dead.

For those who are wondering, his mom, my friend, is doing ok considering. What I find is that the ones who have been waiting and wondering for a long time are relieved. They have some peace knowing the answer to the question:

"Where is he?"
 
Kelly said:
I just ran across this article: Court TV/Tara Grinstead

Stellafane: You'll love the photo of CB as she's looking pretty ragged here. This family will not seem to budge in their belief in CB. :(
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Ha! I bet CB hasn't looked that bedraggled since she wrapped up her last film, "Carla Does Cleveland."

Ooh! ooh! Ad hominem! I can't prove that! Cheap shot! Resorting to the tactics of our enemies! I'm SO ashamed...

(Can I stop now?)

Anyway, I'm a fan of Crimelibrary and I've read a lot of Seamus McGraw's stuff. So I suspect this is him voicing his own opinion in this quote:

...they are nothing more than charlatans and opportunists, hucksters who shamelessly promote themselves as they prey on anguished families of crime victims, tantalizing them with obscure references laced with mystical numbers or vague references to common items or broad description of common locales.
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As a writer for Crimelibrary (owned by CourtTV) he probably can't come right out and say so, but I bet the preceding quote is what he really thinks of Carla Baron.
 
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Now tell us how you really feel, Stellafane. :D

Court TV seems to be pretty darn woo. I am surprised that Seamus is not woo, too.

To David from the SW US...you know who you are....and now I am so curious. My psychic powers seemed to have failed me. Thank you for your kindness.
 
Kelly said:
Court TV seems to be pretty darn woo. I am surprised that Seamus is not woo, too.[/B]
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I used to watch CourtTV regularly, but now I rarely do thanks to their "Psychic Detectives" and other woo-friendly content. But to them, I'm probably just collateral damage in the great scheme of things.

I've been reading Crimelibrary for about 10 years now. As I recall, they actually started out as an independent site, but later were acquired by CourtTV. Their content was very skeptical initially (and most of it still is). But over the last few years some woo has crept in, I suspect due to the influence of their corporate parent. I like to think there's still a few old-timers over there who seeth at having to be nice to the psychics these days.
 
How do ghosts find the people who are trying to contact them? There's an awful lot of people to try, even if we limit the selection to people in the same country or people who have heard of the person. Someone sits down with a recorder, a pendulum, a Ouija board, and suddenly they get who they're looking for? Is there some kind of Afterlife Pager?
 
Silly Green Monkey said:
How do ghosts find the people who are trying to contact them? There's an awful lot of people to try, even if we limit the selection to people in the same country or people who have heard of the person. Someone sits down with a recorder, a pendulum, a Ouija board, and suddenly they get who they're looking for? Is there some kind of Afterlife Pager?
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If I were ever murdered and subsequently contacted by a real psychic, I sure as hell wouldn't tell them about the toy train that was important to me when I was three. The first words out of my ectoplasmodic mouth would be the name of my killer. But then again, I suppose being a ghost changes one's view of life.
 
Stellafane said:
If I were ever murdered and subsequently contacted by a real psychic, I sure as hell wouldn't tell them about the toy train that was important to me when I was three. The first words out of my ectoplasmodic mouth would be the name of my killer. But then again, I suppose being a ghost changes one's view of life.
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Yes. I know me. I know me pretty well in fact. And if my afterlife spirit retains any of my "me-ness" whatsoever, I'm going to be quite upset if the person who did me in is still walking around free. In fact, I can pretty much guarantee that if I'm not shouting the bastard's name at the top of my lungs to anyone who will listen, it ain't me you're talking to.
 
Interesting paper on missing people in Australia Missing persons affect 360 000 people, cost $72m a year. Australia has a population of about 20 million people.

Around 30 000 people are reported missing in Australia every year. At a rate of one person every 18 minutes and 1.55 people per 1000, this rate exceeds the total number of victims reported to the police for homicide, sexual assault and unarmed robbery.
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No mention of psychics.

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tsg said:
Yes. I know me. I know me pretty well in fact. And if my afterlife spirit retains any of my "me-ness" whatsoever, I'm going to be quite upset if the person who did me in is still walking around free. In fact, I can pretty much guarantee that if I'm not shouting the bastard's name at the top of my lungs to anyone who will listen, it ain't me you're talking to.
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Time after time those miserable psychics said things like: "He's so frustrated. He wants you to find him so badly."

But yet they couldn't come up with any specific information with which to accomplish this.

When asked a very specific question about something he liked, none of them could get it right, even though they were supposedly talking to him.

So, like you say "it ain't me you're talking to."

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rjh01 said:
Interesting paper on missing people in Australia Missing persons affect 360 000 people, cost $72m a year. Australia has a population of about 20 million people.
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From what I hear the missing problem in AU keeps growing, and they no official government or other missing person related orgs. One good thing is that they at least know their numbers, or so it appears. IN the US, we don't have accurate numbers on adults, and even the child case numbers cannot be trusted.

I have some AU contacts who hope to get a NPO going there in the future.
 
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