Psychics and Missing People

CFLarsen said:
I got a pretty good idea of what that means...

Sheesh, how inane can this get? No, the psychic can not "communicate properly with the family prior to any filming".

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There is no such thing as a psychic having proper communication with a family of a missing person, or at least not in my book. :mad:

No communication is the only proper communication.
 
The following comment contributes nothing to this thread, but writing it down seems to provide some sort of carthartic release for me:

I hate Carla Baron.

And she's just one psychic. I have no idea how you find the strength to deal with the lot of them. I couldn't, I don't have the guts. Hating one is draining enough.
 
Luke, is Tammie the person who emailed this to you?

And to increase your disdain, Stellafane, CB was "helping" a family I knew and she dropped them like a hot potato when media ignored it. That's no surprise, of course.
 
Luke T. said:
Yip. Who is Tammie?
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I don't know. I asked her if we had met somewhere on the 'Net, and she said:

"No Kelly we have not met. I read your blog and you had some guest entries regarding psychics and how they mislead. Court Tv's show Haunting Evidence showcases Tara (Wednesday 7/19) I was just trying to get the word out that the show may not be on the up and up. I find it sad.. that families are mislead with false hope and I am afraid that is what is happening with this family. Also, I hate the fact that people profit from someone's tragedy.
Thank you for your time and God bless you for all you do."

How did she get your email?

Nothing wrong with what she sent, but I was curious who she is, but more curious since she emailed you as well.
 
It is a FACT

Luke T. said:
I received an email today from someone I do not know, but who seems to know I have an interest in Carla Baron.

It appears there is strong evidence that Carla has contact with family members of missing people prior to the filming of her show "Haunting Evidence" which follows Carla as she supposedly begins looking into a missing person case.

Some hard evidence here: http://www.carlabaron.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1910#post1910

Regarding the disappearnce of Tara Grinsted:



I have not ever watched "Haunting Evidence" so I don't know if the show on Tara Grinsted claimed Carla had no prior contact with the family. According to the email I got today, they made such a claim in another show on someone else's disappearance.

Some more interesting bits, from the adminstrator of the Carla Baron fan site forum:

http://www.carlabaron.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1888#post1888



Apparently word is getting around, and the same administrator felt compelled to do some spin control: http://www.carlabaron.net/forum/showthread.php?t=525




Interesting wordplay.
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I know for a fact that Carla "has and is" close with Anita Gattis (Tara's sister), Not only are they close so are some of the searchers that searched, friends of the family (residents of Ocilla) have been on Carla's message board for months and months back...In fact Carla gave what she calls a kind and gentle place for the family and friends and searchers to post (SAR)and Gave them their "own" personal thread on Carla's forum to discuss the case in detail. Here is the link(s).... http://www.carlabaron.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2449#post2449 and http://www.carlabaron.net/forum/showthread.php?t=435&page=2

If you are interested in Carla's history of so called "helping people" go here>> http://www.iigwest.com/carla_report.html
 
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Kelly said:
I don't know. I asked her if we had met somewhere on the 'Net, and she said:
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I have asked her, too, but she has not responded.

How did she get your email?
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I am wondering the same thing. She did not use the one you have, which is even more curious.

She used an email address I created specifically for an article I wrote for Skeptic Report a few years ago!

The blue fairies on the moon. :)


Nothing wrong with what she sent, but I was curious who she is, but more curious since she emailed you as well.
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Nope. Nothing wrong with it.
 
Suzan said:
...If you are interested in Carla's history of so called "helping people" go here>> http://www.iigwest.com/carla_report.html
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Hi Suzan. I am familiar with this site. I also notice it's a bit out of date. For instance, the site still lists Philip and Sarah Gehring as missing. Their bodies were found late last year in Ohio -- despite Ms. Baron's "vision" of "clarity and force" that they were "near New Hampshire." Logical guess, but not even her staunchest apologists can claim she got this one right (unless you have an exceedingly broad definition of "near").
 
The_Fire said:
Been a while since I was in this thread.

Hows it going with psychicpredators.com? ;).
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Claus must have sent you. ;) I have not forgotten about it.

Stellafane said:
Hi Suzan. I am familiar with this site. I also notice it's a bit out of date. For instance, the site still lists Philip and Sarah Gehring as missing. Their bodies were found late last year in Ohio -- despite Ms. Baron's "vision" of "clarity and force" that they were "near New Hampshire." Logical guess, but not even her staunchest apologists can claim she got this one right (unless you have an exceedingly broad definition of "near").
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I wonder if that group is still active. I have not seen anything new from them. This article was one of the first ones I recall ever seeing about the psychic issue. At that time, I'd never heard of CB. I do wish they'd update it, especially with this glaring error of hers.
 
Kelly,

I was just watching a doc that included a profile of the Zach Ramsey case, and was at first shocked by the outcome of the investigation. I don't know how old a show this was, but what's the latest?
 
CptColumbo said:
Kelly,

I was just watching a doc that included a profile of the Zach Ramsey case, and was at first shocked by the outcome of the investigation. I don't know how old a show this was, but what's the latest?
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Forgive me, Cpt, but I don't know who Zach Ramsey is. I did a search and found a baby with cancer and a kid who died of cancer, but I'm not familiar with either one. Can you shed some light on this one for me? Thanks.
 
I believe it was one of the rocky mountain states (Idaho seems right). The thing I remember most about it was that the suspect the police arrested, a sex offender from Mass., was not charged due to the mother being uncooperative. He was convicted for other offences, involving pedophilia, with other children. The child has never been found. I'm sorry I don't remember more, I was working on the computer when it was on and didn't pay attention right away.
 
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CptColumbo said:
I believe it was one of the rocky mountain states (Idaho seems right). The thing I remember most about it was that the suspect the police arrested, a sex offender from Mass., was not charged due to the mother being uncooperative. He was convicted for other offences, involving pedophilia, with other children. The child has never been found. I'm sorry I don't remember more, I was working on the computer when it was on and didn't pay attention right away.
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This must be who you are talking about: Zachary Ramsay

The man involved sounds so evil. Who knows how many kids he killed or hurt in some way.

With 105,000+ missing persons' cases open in the US at any given time, there are so many I have never heard of. I know quite a few, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the overall number. Zach's is one I had not run across yet.
 
Kelly said:
This must be who you are talking about: Zachary Ramsay

The man involved sounds so evil. Who knows how many kids he killed or hurt in some way.

With 105,000+ missing persons' cases open in the US at any given time, there are so many I have never heard of. I know quite a few, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the overall number. Zach's is one I had not run across yet.
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The suspect sounded like the such an evil scum bag, I was relieved to hear he was at least off the street (except it meant he commited another sex crime against a child).

BTW did you see the part about the psychic:

His mother insists that her psychic and others believe her son is alive and she hopes his case will be reopened by law enforcement.
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I hope that's not why she isn't cooperating with the authorities.
 
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CptColumbo said:
The suspect sounded like the such an evil scum bag, I was relieved to hear he was at least off the street (except it meant he commited another sex crime against a child).

BTW did you see the part about the psychic:


I hope that's not why she isn't cooperating with the authorities.
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What a strange case! I read further and as it states here, authorities dropped the murder charges because the mother said she thought the boy was alive. Now, I may not know much about the law, but you'd think if they have the evidence, they would continue on with the prosection, regardless of the mother's and the psychic's feelings or delusions.
 
Kelly said:
What a strange case! I read further and as it states here, authorities dropped the murder charges because the mother said she thought the boy was alive. Now, I may not know much about the law, but you'd think if they have the evidence, they would continue on with the prosection, regardless of the mother's and the psychic's feelings or delusions.
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That's why I was curious about it, because it seemed so unusual.
 
I'm adding this case to my list of examples to pull out when a believer asks "What harm can it do to listen to the psychic."

How about a reply like this?:

"What if a multiple offense sexual predator commits murder and cannibalism but the mother won't testify? She is supported in her delusional belief that the kid is still alive by her psychic predator."
 
YoPopa said:
I'm adding this case to my list of examples to pull out when a believer asks "What harm can it do to listen to the psychic."

How about a reply like this?:

"What if a multiple offense sexual predator commits murder and cannibalism but the mother won't testify? She is supported in her delusional belief that the kid is still alive by her psychic predator."
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Bingo.

Of course, we have numerous other examples, too.

I'm still ticked that they would drop those charges, but maybe they were confident he'd never get to walk by a playground again.
 
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